This enquiry is with how to connect/set-up the various fans and LEDs. I hope someone will be able to advise me on what to connect to what header and what to link thereafter, etc.
To set the background, I have built many PCs in the past but have to build a new one for myself as my old one died (processor and/or motherboard) and not man enough for Win11. This will be my first foray into any internal lighting and am at a loss when reading the instructions for connecting the various bits.
- Photo 1 - The motherboard is an Asus ROG Strix B650E-F (product code MB-6JX-AS) which has AURA RGB – the picture shows an extract of manual re the AURA header
- Picture 2 - The cooler I have chosen is a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB Dual Tower CPU Cooler (product code COO-TLR-02721) – this has two fans which have ARGB lighting - the picture shows an extract from the instructions re connections
- Picture 3 - The case is a Phanteks Enthoo Pro Glass Case (product code CA-075-PT) – this has a LED control for 10 different colour pre-sets – to control the fans there is an integrated PWB hub which can be directly controlled from the motherboard
Beyond the above I also have:
- 2 x LED ribbon strips and some connecting cables
- 3 x same fans as used with the cooler and each has connecting cables
- 2 one into three 4 pin Y splitter for RGB LED ribbon strips
What should/shouldn’t I connect to what as there appears to be a fight over access to the four-pin RGB header on the board when looking at the three photos.
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Sorry to see this late. Hope you fix it. Now the answer
The Asus ROG Strix B650E-Fb has 3 ARGB ports in the motheboard. The first photo is 4 pin 12v RGB. that ONLY works with RGB lights with 4 pin lights. IF YOU PLUG a 5v 3 pin ARGB, YOU WILL BURN SOMETHING!
That out of the way on the second photo : THAT IS NOT A LIGHT CONTROL HUB that is a FAN CONTROLER. YOU CAN NOT use this to power the lights on the fans or strips. THAT is ONLY to control and power the fans.
With the hub that comes with that case, you can use 6 fans, power with sata (psu) and use 1 port PWM from the board. EXAMPLE you can use 3 fans on front that are 3 pin, YOU CAN use also 4 pin fan on that hub since have the space to added. this is ONLY to power the fans for rotacion speed. THIS IS NOT FOR LIGHTS.
ASK please! so i can check aside what I put above need to sort that out.
Please bear with me as I try and get this right and understand what has been sent to me via a couple of different sources including your own. I think I have explained things as best as possible.
- There are two voltages to contend with depending on what is being connected to the mainboard:
- 12v with 4-pin sockets which will power the case fans and, in my build. the two CPU cooler fans.
- One 12v 4-pin RGB socket that will only work with 4-pin 12v RGB LED light strips (if any used) which can be connected via a Y-cable or daisy-chained together.
- 5v with 3-pin ARGB sockets (three of) that the ARGB lights in relevant fans will be powered via.
- For my build I intend to connect the two CPU cooler fans via a Y-cable to the 4-pin 12v CPU fan socket (not using the CPU_OPT one) so that I can sync the speed of the fans in the dual-fan setup (as in my original photo 2). For the lights on the two cooler fans: to daisy chain the two together via the 3-pin cables and into one of the 5v 3-pin ARGB sockets.
Where I am getting confused is with utilising the case fan controller
- The separate case 12v case fans can be connected to the mainboard 4-pin 12v sockets directly, either via Y-cables or via the case fan controller (not using the Fan 1 position on the hub).
- If I connect the 12v case fans to the case fan controller (powered by a 12v SATA supply), the instructions for the case show that the controller should then be connected to the 4-pin 12v CPU fan socket – but that will already be in use for the cooler fans) and controlled via the PC mainboard software (?).
- If I connect the case controller instead to the CPU_OPT socket, would that impact any separate control of the two cooler fans? If this would be the case, then could any other 4-pin 12v socket be used to connect the controller instead and that control being independent of the cooler fan control via the PC mainboard software?
- If I connect the other 12v fans direct to the mainboard (not to the CPU_OPT socket), I assume (?) that there is software for the mainboard that will control the other non-CPU-cooler ones separate to the case fan controller hub, or is it a case of either the mainboard software controlling all of the case and PSU cooler fan together and not the case fan controller?
- I ask some of these questions as I forgot to originally include some of the case info (see photo 4) now attached as there is a RGB lighting control button. Would this control any 12v LED strips if installed but not the fan speeds and only if connected to the case fan controller and not the 12v 4-pin RGB socket on the mainboard? Or do the strips have to be connected to the 12v 4-pin RGB mainboard socket?
- The other case fans and their ARGB 5v lights to be connected to the other ARGB 5v 3-pin sockets on the board (again these connections can be daisy chained or via a suitable 3-pin splitter cable(s).
Or a I over-complicating the options and confusing myself unnecessarily ????
I send a chat aside for later. Let me try to do this as you add it
- For my build I intend to connect the two CPU cooler fans via a Y-cable to the 4-pin 12v CPU fan socket (not using the CPU_OPT one) so that I can sync the speed of the fans in the dual-fan setup (as in my original photo 2). For the lights on the two cooler fans: to daisy chain the two together via the 3-pin cables and into one of the 5v 3-pin ARGB sockets.
For the fan pwm (cpu fan) super that is the way to do it. the you use the ARGB 3 pin for it. YOU can use 4 fans. NOTE: the max is 3amp. that is around, depending of the fans 3v 5amps, 3 fans and up to 4 no more for be on the safe side.
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On the confuse part i will brake down as best posible.
- The separate case 12v case fans can be connected to the mainboard 4-pin 12v sockets directly, either via Y-cables or via the case fan controller (not using the Fan 1 position on the hub).
On the this part. i will put my personal note here. It is a rule of thumb the back fan of the case use the FAN1. Why? is the one responsible to remove the hot air of the case. use this for this. I will recommend to use a good fan 140mm if posible that is airflow oriented. Test has show (regardless you tubers say on this) is my main exhaust fan and more with new current gpus both amd and nvida. work always and does a good job doing so. regarding teh hub of the case you can use FAN2 on the board to control air intake. i will explain more on this later.
2. If I connect the 12v case fans to the case fan controller (powered by a 12v SATA supply), the instructions for the case show that the controller should then be connected to the 4-pin 12v CPU fan socket – but that will already be in use for the cooler fans) and controlled via the PC mainboard software (?).
The hub is a controller that use one pwm 4 pin that control what ever you put on the hub. The hub IS mark what is fan1 so make sure 1 fan is plug there. what ever you have there it will work the same. As I mentioned above use this on FAN2 so you can control intake fans on 1 port. WILL NOT MANNER if is 3 pin(DC) or 4 pin (PWM) will work as
3. If I connect the case controller instead to the CPU_OPT socket, would that impact any separate control of the two cooler fans? If this would be the case, then could any other 4-pin 12v socket be used to connect the controller instead and that control being independent of the cooler fan control via the PC mainboard software?
NO. CPU OPT can not be control. the control is base on CPU FAN on the board. NOT ideal. The board can be control on basic on bios. and use Armory crate to use sensors. CPU OPT DOES NOT HAVE A READING or can be control. it react as cpu fan. In my testing over the decades on asus board, CPU OPTIONAL even that say, will NOT use the same speed. no idea why. but is fine. ONLY USE THIS on air coolers but the best is use CPU FAN with the splitter that comes with the cooler. and use ac to control the speed and\or adjusment.
here are some pictures
the app can assing sensors like the gpu. so if the gpu get hot and the cpu is not, the app take over the fans and ramp is the gpu is hot and remove OR intake more air if needed and if is assing. that is good if you have all fan ports correct in use. IF NOT the fan will not ramp up correct and gpu generate more heat than cpu. regardless if is amd or intel .
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4. I ask some of these questions as I forgot to originally include some of the case info (see photo 4) now attached as there is a RGB lighting control button. Would this control any 12v LED strips if installed but not the fan speeds and only if connected to the case fan controller and not the 12v 4-pin RGB socket on the mainboard? Or do the strips have to be connected to the 12v 4-pin RGB mainboard socket?
Regading the case lights. I have to check that one. but the case have a hub for lighint. that model i have work 1 time long time ago. IF THE CASE comes with a 4 pin RGB plug to 12v arg and you can use ONLY 12v 4 pin rgb strips. THIS WILL NOT be the same as ARGB. IF the case use a 3pin argb that can be plug to the board then the case support sync. manual will mention it. IF DOES NOT MENTION THIS on the manual you can not SYNC. 12v rgb will NOT show on armory crate OR any other app. ONLY ARGB and will appear as the image below
the board can support 12v BUT is basic old school and can ONLY enjoy that it does. DOES NOT HAVE CONTOL over it. As time passes 12v will go away. In image below IS THE ONLY CONTROL over it anything else is a myth. the old ways is called today Color cycle and will do color cycle only. the patters ARE color cycle on 12v RGB 4 pin ports.
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5. The other case fans and their ARGB 5v lights to be connected to the other ARGB 5v 3-pin sockets on the board (again these connections can be daisy chained or via a suitable 3-pin splitter cable(s).
the answers is YES! BUT as i note above DO NOT PASS THE LIMIT. a rule of thumb is max 4 fans. but check the fans specs what is the amp on those. is 3 amps 5 volts UP TO 500. whatever comes first.
Example for reference. ALL good fans will this on be box or the back of the fan. LED 5v 0.65A.
3 of those is 1.95amps. means that you can use 4 on 1 argb port. that is 2.6amp. one more pass the 3amp and you can burn the port. or will NOT work. the board will protect itself but eventually will brake and burn the board. I have this a LOT!
can be overcome. YES but that for another story.
Hope this clear a little the Q&A any Q let me know i send a msg and i am open to clear Myths of videos and realitty
PD: sorry for my sentences, English is not my main language. and also for the long words.
carlos
For 140mm in the front IF you use the hub is fine is getting power from sata (directo from PSU) and you will be fine.
On those days, the stock fans was a way that oem we add something for your price. So those where not good and heat disipation wnere not as high as today. mostly on 140mm should be around 1000RPM. in general. max 1200rpm. those need to be replace for something more better. get 3 good 140mm like noctua or phanteks or another brand that are presure optimice since that case has to move air in to the case.
Has to pass the front then HD space pass the gpu goin up and to the back. the case also have space to add 2 more 120mm fans as to brute force the intake on the case. and I think the front has 2 120mm . once the case you have have it you can check at close. IF that is the case is 120mm at the front. you can get 4 the best 120m fans and add it so move air and those 4 plug to the hub.
And those hd rags can be remove
Aside this there is not much i can say to clear stuff. Was a good case.
Once you get the case we can check on actual photos. you can contact me aside when that comes.
regarding on the hub and where to plug what where,i did explain on the post. the cooler on splitter to cpu_fan. the back fan of the case on fan_1 the front on hub. on fan_2
the controler for argb lights shoudl have a 12v
when you get the case we check on actual photos
