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ASUS CloneDrive

Menthol
Level 14
I thought I would try ASUS CloneDrive to see how it works cloning an OS drive
I cloned a 1TB Plextor M8Pe M.2 pcie NVME drive with Windows 7 Pro 64bit onto an Intel 750 1.2 TB pcie NVME drive
The cloned drive booted without any issues, took 11min 28 sec to complete
Like some other ASUS software unfortunately it won't install on older boards but as free software goes this works really well
Allows you to clone any drive on your system to any other drive

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davemon50
Level 11
Looks handy.

Why isn't it offered for the RVE10 ? It looks like it should work for any board ?
Davemon50

haihane
Level 13
i wonder if this clones a HDD OS to an SSD properly, or if it's the same with samsung's data migration program.

the story of my own mishaps when trying to clone a drive:
i recently bought a samsung 850 evo SSD (just a meager 256 GB, but more than plenty enough for me), thinking of using it to upgrade my PC. i used samsung data migration program to do a clone copy. everything seemed to work fine at first. then problems start coming up one after another.

the original OS drive was in a RAID 1 array (dual WDRed 2 tb). couple of weeks before, i figured out after much googling and reading that i can break the array without affecting the usability of each drives. i had been experimenting with breaking and rebuilding raid 1 arrays, and also trying out the ReFS (resilient file system) partition on my junk data.

so... i thought the process was going to be a simple one, that i was just going to break the array, then take out one mirror copy drive (and put this in my cupboard for later reuse), plug in the samsung SSD, run the data migration wizard (latest version from samsung, not the un-updated version provided by their DVDs along with the SSD box), and when done, i can just power down the computer, take out the other original Raid-1ed HDD, power back up, and call it a day!

everything started to work just like before. in fact, system seemed much snappier. i was glad. 🙂
then i know what happens when i'm glad. my fingers started to get itchy (my culture's metaphor for curiosity got the better of me). i started checking What happens if... scenarios, things i did out of curiosity and the subsequent fubars i found out:
1. the sata bios settings was still under RAID mode in port 1-4, and port 5-6. i theorized if i could make it into AHCI mode because samsung magician software lists that the SSD isn't running optimally. read couple of guides on what registry keys to change to enable MSAHCI. tried just that and jotting it down in a separate laptop what i did, just in case i have to rollback.

result: no good. the system went into a forever boot loop. even windows' own boot repair couldn't help it to boot. this problem is easily fixed by setting the sata ports back to RAID, with a tiny caveat, once it's in RAID mode, all ports lose the AHCI functionality, and no Crystaldiskinfos, Hwinfo64s can read the Drives' health status. it's still fine because the AMDraidXpert can report each physical drives and raid arrays' health.

2. the deal killer is when i finished with the scenario one above, and my gut sense was telling me something: i cloned this from a HDD, i lost AHCI functionality. do i lose TRIM? hmm... by then i had already nuked Original HDD #1's partition into oblivion and finished moving data to their respective places.

my Gut told me to check the Drive Defragmenter on windows, and try to run a defragment. Drive C, Media type: HDD. <- danger!
my utter curiosity and also stupidity compelled me to press that optimize button, to which it did try to defragment <- SUPER DANGER! CANCEL CANCEL.

it was at this point i decided that the entire cloned SSD needs to be nuked, or the SSD will suicide itself to the end of its lifespan. i literally had to take out the Original HDD #2 (thank you, lord of Raid1!), use that to recover the data (after breaking Raid 1, each individual HDDs can be used as readable drives, just not bootable unless the appropriate sata mode was chosen because they seemed tied to the modes where windows was installed)... tl;dr: did a clean install on SSD, this time everything was detected as is. it was time consuming but i averted a disaster (imo).


because i experienced the above, i was wondering if ASUS Clone would be smart enough to automate all the processes and at the same time detect the type differences of hard-drives (or SSDs) and cloning them properly (something which samsung themselves weren't able to do).

if they're able to, i will be very impressed.
if they're not able to... yet, maybe this verbal vomit i typed (sorry!) can serve as inspiration to further improve their software?
no siggy, saw stuff that made me sad.

Korth
Level 14
ASUS CloneDrive is one of those softwares that I've often seen sitting on the ASUS Support Disc or websites but I've always routinely ignored, lol, Clonezilla!

It's got the slick ROG looks and it apparently does exactly what it's gotta do well enough (@Menthol - congrats on your M.2-to-PCIe OS drive and thanx for the quick mini-review). But it's still ASUS-proprietary and only it runs on (some) ASUS mobos. I clone drives (and multi-drive RAIDs, multiple partition structures, multiple file systems, multiple multi-boot operating systems, etc) often enough and across enough different (not always ASUS) platforms that I much prefer proven software which I know always works and which I know will always work forever - aggressively supported opensource (which I can recompile for myself, if I choose) is just extra gravy.

I suspect CloneDrive is designed more for simplicity than for capability, intended mainly for non-tech-savvy ASUS buyers who need to move a bootable WinOS install on or off whatever fancy new M.2/NVMe SSD they bought. Not saying that simplicity and automation is bad, the software obviously works well enough and simpler is better, but sometimes you need additional complexity and settings to accomplish cloning tasks which aren't as straightforward, lol.

CloneDrive's emphasis on measuring time, speed, and performance gives me a chuckle. Is 11 minutes and 28 seconds a new world record, will people start competing with their overclocked CloneDrive benchmarks? I haven't done (and never will do) any sort of proper side-by-side comparison, but I suspect CloneDrive is basically just as fast/slow as any other drive cloning software - it's just not the sort of software that's engineered and tweaked up for raw speed and nothing else. Actual performance (time it takes to clone drives) is going to be determined by hardware anyhow (mostly the performances of the drives themselves, plus available CPU and RAM), but whatever performance impact the software has will put CloneDrive behind the race right out of the gate (it runs in Windows, lol).

@davemon50 - try downloading CloneDrive from the ASUS pages for other motherboards (or other OS versions), it should run on any mobo equipped with a "ROG Chip" (including your R5E10) even when it's not formally offered - same applies for all ASUS ROG softwares, lol.
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davemon50
Level 11
When I was on W7 I used Norton to clone and backup. After moving to W10 I installed Acronis, and while it's capable, it takes too much control, and too many resources as well. So I canceled my subscription and uninstalled it. I cloned my laptop M.2 successfully with the Samsung software, but for the desktop I wanted something simple. This may just fit the bill. Not sure why it isn't on the RVE10 download list, but if it works I guess that's all that really matters.

EDIT: Asus, if this is free and works with all ROG boards, why not add it under the "Downloads" link?
Davemon50

Korth
Level 14
Why not go one step further and simply have a "ROG downloads" link for all ROG-locked software meant to run on ROG motherboards?
"All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others." - Douglas Adams

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never got it to work right used Samsung migration to clone Windows 10 to ssd for boot drive

thegreenthing
Level 7
I used that ASUS clonedrive v1.00.07 awhile back. I got decent compressed images from it. However, there are better products out there that will bring down the compressed file-size.

Bootdrive data - 65gigs
Clonedrive results
18,745,827,328 bytes
Competitor results
11,906,695,168 bytes
The compression level for clonedrive soft is probably about average which is a set value. I used a higher compression level on another clone/image soft.

For being free, its not a bad little program 😄

I just found out I have CloneDrive installed, but I can't find any manual for it. My idea is to clone my drive after a clean Windows install to avoid having to reformat and reinstall in the future, but I don't see how to restore a cloned drive. Any ideas?