ASUS ROG Strix RX Vega 64/56 Release Date???

[panzlock]

As per thread title, has anyone heard anything other than "September" for release of the RX Vega Strix? With GPU prices increasing and corporate greed taking advantage of the current cryptomining infatuation I want to know how much this new variant will cost. The reference RX Vega 56 has already seen a price increase which makes it around $50 CAD more expensive than existing GTX 1070 stock. In the past reference card models have typically been more expensive than AIB partner cards, however I'm still concerned that the 56 in particular will be sold at GTX 1080 prices given that the 64 is already priced where the 1080 Ti sits.

I picked the wrong time to assemble a new build. Although prices on other components have been reasonable with rebates, the price of new VGA's really nullifies the savings I've been able to achieve thus far. Again, I've heard little about the ROG Strix Vega other than September release date, some pictures and a respectable performance review which i can no longer find. And guru3d also took down their review due to an ASUS error which found the wrong card in guru3d's hands:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/review-asus-radeon-rog-rx-vega-64-strix-8gb.html

Lets get it together, people.

[Guyvergamingtv]

any more news on this? was hoping for a new card at xmas but not holing my breath. really need a new card now.

[panzlock]

Guyvergamingtv wrote:
any more news on this? was hoping for a new card at xmas but not holing my breath. really need a new card now.

Looking worse and worse:

AMD's AIBs can't afford to release custom RX Vega 64 cards and we can't afford to buy one

AMD’s RX Vega graphics cards launched back in August, and while third-party cooler designs have been ‘teased’ for months, AMD fans are still patiently waiting for the day these arrive on the shelves - but at what cost?

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-rx-vega-custom-graphics-cards

[Asmoranomar]

If you've been following any of the third party AMD cards, you'd know now that all of them have been in the dark regarding release dates (or at least, hey we are releasing in September/October/November/Soon!™). This seems to be an issue with AMD not providing ANY chips to third parties to be used for consumer manufacturing - and it's not related to yield quality either, since we aren't swimming in 56's and there hasn't been any third party 56 offers. So It's probably just that AMD thought that both Vega Core prices would decrease and HBM2 supply would increase enough to make selling to third parties a viable option, and it hasn't.

It would be a bad move for any company to publicly come out and say "Well AMD isn't really saying **** to us about it, why do you ask them?", but a few writers/editors in various media outlets have contacted various third party vendors and has confirmed that AMD hasn't provided any solid shipment dates for when Vega 64 GPUs will be delivered. Of course, names and sources have to be anon, so we can't be 100% sure this is accurate, but it does explain why almost every third party vendor with a card that's ready has the same story (we are still releasing in October!) to tell.

So I'm not really sure you can throw ASUS into the fire and tell them to step up their game; when a contract is made it pretty much says what priority you get your chips in and if it's a supply issue then it's obvious that third-party vendors would be one of the last to get theirs. Still, it REALLY sucks that ASUS hasn't said a word, and I do blame them for that.

[panzlock]

This looks like a nice card from PowerColor: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/powercolor-teases-radeon-rx-vega-64-red-devil-and-red-dragon-info.h...

Up your game, ASUS.

[Guyvergamingtv]

well yes AMD have completely ballsed up the release of the vega cards but if you dont have advertised a product for release soon or even a given date then it is late you should say what is going on. i would say a lot of given up waiting and moved on to Nvidia which is what im thinking about doing. little information is better then no information and with various reviews popping up now and then you would expect product release soon after but we never see it and still silence from all involved. very bad marketing from asus and bad manufacturing from AMD

just my opinion but something needs to said to the gamers waiting for these cards.

[Asmoranomar]

Guyvergamingtv wrote:
but if you dont have advertised a product for release soon or even a given date then it is late you should say what is going on.

Absolutely - but the problem is ASUS might have an actual product ready for release (as well as other third party vendors), and they are just waiting on Vega chips. They might be under non-disclosure agreements to not discuss ANY details of the contract, to include chip delivery dates. Which basically means if some guy even remotely hints that "AMD hasn't shipped any", "We are waiting on AMD", or etc.; could break the NDA and burn whatever contract they had to the ground. ...potentially. So...what can they say?

I mean, I can see the position they are in, and it sucks, but I still want some feedback. They pay PR for this, and they can still hype a product without breaking NDA and promising new release dates and busting them - I mean Soon!™ is already a meme, and October is already understood as a joke for 2018, so RUN with it PR and just tell us how things are going in the mean time or something.

[panzlock]

I know where they claim the delays are but I'm not buying all of them. HBM 2 might be scarce and expensive, but ASUS and all other AIB partners are saying little. However, ASUS for a while now has been marketing the ROG Strix Vega which reviewers discovered is underperforming when compared to the reference AMD cards. On top of that, ASUS released clock speed and shortly thereafter removed them from their site. Why?

More to it than just component shortage and high prices. Vega is also underperforming. They release these cards overpriced without squeezing a little bit more from them at lower wattage and they can kiss their Christmas bonuses goodbye.

[panzlock]

PowercColor Vega almost ready, apparently. Decent clock speeds when compared to AMD's reference water cooled variant.

It seems our wait for custom editions of AMD's RX Vega graphics cards is coming to an end. "Better late than never" is what they always say; however, AMD and its AIB partners have to know that this kind of wait can sap customer enthusiasm for a product. It's not enough that customers waited around two years for Vega to come to fruition; we've also had to wait some additional months (not weeks), for an actual custom-design graphics card. Vega's exotic design with HBM2 memory means that these graphics cards' availability would fall prey not only to Vega GPU yields, but also to HBM2 memory availability.

https://www.techpowerup.com/238979/powercolor-radeon-rx-vega-64-red-devil-available-soon-overclocked...

[Asmoranomar]

Latest word from ASUS is that they will be out before the end of the year.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/news/hardware/grafikkarten/45003-weitere-verzoegerungen-asus-r...

[BaneSilvermoon]

Asmoranomar wrote:
Latest word from ASUS is that they will be out before the end of the year.

Hope so. If it hits 2018 and I still don't have a card, I'm probably just going to buy a stock Vega 64, or possibly migrate to Nvidia for the first time in almost twenty years.

Probably go with a Vega though, due to the Freesync monitor I have.