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New Asus X870E Strix board - M.2 drive disappearing

Cheairnyndahl
Level 9

Hello, just installed my new Asus X870E-E Strix motherboard, loving it so far. When I initially got in to Windows, all of my drives were present (even the new one that wasn't formatted yet was showing in Disk Management) - I updated everything in terms of latest drivers for the motherboard etc, rebooted and enabled EXPO on my RAM, set to 6000MHz with voltages set, didn't touch any other settings...

And now one of my M.2 drives is not showing up in BIOS or in Windows?  I've tried changing the BIOS setting for Bifurcation to GPU+M.2 mode, that doesn't help.  Any suggestions as to what else I can try?  I have a feeling it's related to the whole thing of the GPU slot & the M.2-2 & M.2-3 sharing bandwidth, but the drive that's in one of them is showing up while the other is not now.
I'm going to try disabling EXPO & see if that helps for some reason... wouldn't make any sense if that was it, but perhaps the BIOS version I'm on is messing something up.

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Katana1074
Level 9

Hi...

Try physically changing the m.2 drives around, 2nd thing to try is turn off (in bios) fast boot and AMI Native NVMe Driver Support,  I Have experienced this before and never really came up with a solution....

Regards

So, I did some fiddling, and it's reappeared and is working fine now. I thought perhaps it might have something to do with a bug having to do with PBO being turned on, but I re-enabled in a few hours ago & the problem hasn't re-occurred.

The only differences between what I'm running now & what I was running when it happened are:

High Voltage Mode was on for the system RAM, I was running 1.5v to run the RAM at 6200MHz with CL28, which was stable on my previous motherboard with no issues, and 2067MHz FCLK at 1.2v - I may try doing just the FCLK again, see if it happens again, then do just the High Voltage Mode, and see if either of those causes it.  

Only other thing I can think of is it's a random bug that they'll iron out in a future BIOS update.

Should be noted: I am using all 5 M.2 drive slots, in addition to an M.2 expansion card in the x4 4.0 slot, all 6 drives are working now, and only the ONE drive disappeared when the bug occurred - I believe it was the drive that's in M.2-3 but I'm not positive.

I also adjusted the PCIe Gen speeds manually, but I'm not sure if that's still applied: I put the GPU and all M.2 slots at Gen4 speeds, because none of my drives are Gen5, because they're too expensive for not that much extra speed and way more heat generation.

Cheairnyndahl
Level 9

Any time I mess with certain Memory Settings it disappears again... like I tried to enable 6200MHz again, or 2067MHz FCLK, or just raise the DRAM voltage, and it disappeared.  Loaded the old profile I saved before messing with stuff, tried to set to CL28 at 6000MHz, it disappeared again.  Now it's back with me running CL30 6000MHz without high voltage mode on... 

I can confirm the manually set PCIe Gen Speeds didn't effect it.  I'll do more testing tomorrow after I get some sleep.

Cheairnyndahl
Level 9

I guess I'm going to have to report this to Asus as a bug they need to fix - any time I set RAM speed to higher than 6000MHz or FCLK higher than 2000MHz, that drive disappears in Windows & in BIOS, so there's definitely something they need to fix.

Hi....

Yes I would definitely file a bug report, I don`t have this issue, other than a couple of raid controller resets...

Regards

Cheairnyndahl
Level 9

I am currently working with Asus Tech Support, it's been escalated to their Tier 2 people... spent almost 1 1/2hrs with the Chat Tech person trying to figure it out.

I was on 0223 BIOS, which I thought might be the problem, but I updated to the 0606, problem still persists and it's completely random.  I had one boot where I literally changed nothing, the drive was there, I rebooted even though I changed nothing, which is annoying, and the drive was gone.

Troubleshooting included: trying a completely different drive in each slot, trying different drive in each slot (the one that was in M.2-2 always is the one that disappears the most, M.2-3 only disappears in certain circumstances).  Tried resetting BIOS with Clear CMOS completely, because the BIOS actually completely bugged out and was unusable at one point when I was adjusting how tight my CPU AIO Block was mounted, the drives re-appeared, then I changed something and M.2-2 disappeared again. The drive in M.2-3 will only disappear once in a while, and usually only when I ENABLE the GPU+M.2 Storage setting, which SHOULD be ALLOWING both drives to show up, it does the OPPOSITE, and makes both of them not work or show up in BIOS.

It's also annoying that just having ONE drive installed in the M.2-3 drive slot, with nothing in M.2-2 STILL makes the GPU slot run in x8 mode - that was not the case on my previous board, I could have all 4 slots occupied & the GPU slot ran at a full x16.

If they can't offer me a solution quickly enough, I'm going to end up returning the board to Amazon - might try exchange first, but most likely it'll be for a refund, can't take the chance of it happening again with a new board & falling outside the return window.

I did completely reseat my CPU, as in I took the cooler off, cleaned both, took the CPU out completely and put it back in, made sure the ILM was on there good, and redid the CPU cooler mounting - my temperatures are a bit better this time, so I do think mounting pressure was a potential issue, but it's made no difference in terms of the drives appearing/disappearing (I was really hoping it was some bad contact on Pins or something, but I didn't see any damaged pins or any damage of any kind on the CPU).

This is so frustrating, because I love this board, other than this issue, but the primary reasons I bought it was it having 5 M.2 drive slots and 3 of them having the bigger heatsinks on them, as I use those drives for AI/General Rendering in addition to gaming... the heatsinks work great, but that don't matter if the drive is there sometimes & not there others, depending on the boot up.

 

On a lighter note, I did manage to get CL28 6200MHz on my RAM tested and at least 'stable enough for now' - those settings are another thing that frequently made the M.2-2 drive disappear, any time I messed with RAM speed beyond 6000MHz or FCLK above 2000MHz, it would disappear most of the time.  And I'll prioritize running this 2x48GB kit at tighter timings at 6200MHz CL28 with 2067MHz FCLK over having the extra native M.2 slot compared to my previous board (X670E AORUS Master).  I wanted out of the Gigabyte Ecosystem, looks like I may not be able to do that just yet.

Cheairnyndahl
Level 9

So... got a reply from Asus Support... really helpful LOL but first, an update:

 

I decided to plug the ADATA drive back in to that slot, for the lulz, while still running the 2067MHz FCLK with 6200MHz CL28 RAM settings... booted in to BIOS... drive is there... booted in to Windows... Drive is there.

I don't even know anymore....

Asus' Support Reply:

"1) M.2_2 & M.2_3 slots share bandwidth with PCIEX16(G5). When M.2_2 & M.2_3 are occupied with SSD devices, PCIEX16(G5) will run x8 only.

2) M.2_2 & M.2_3 will be disabled when using AMD Ryzen™ 8000 Series Desktop Processors.

Please troubleshoot M.2 drives:

Clean the M.2_2 and M.2_3 slot

if persist, please take out the processor and put it back in

RMA the motherboard if it still have same issue"

 

So I guess I'm going to just hope it keeps working like it currently is, and if it randomly disappears again, I'll start the RMA process with Amazon to get another board in... as I really don't want to just return it for a refund, I'd rather get another unit, since it seems this is almost definitely an issue specific to my motherboard in particular.

Apollo2
Level 7

Following since I’m having the exact same issues.

Paired the board with a new 9800x3d and two 990 pro’s both kept falling off when in m.2-2 or 3. Tried with a Crucial that I had lying around to make sure it wasn’t a bad drive and had the same result. Temp fix was to move one to m.2-4 and the OS one to m.2-1.

So what I've done thus far, I removed the drive in m.2-2, plugged in the settings I wanted to test stability on, did the stability testing, saved the profile in bios, then put the data 4tb drive back in m.2-2 and thus far... It hasn't disappeared. But I also haven't changed any settings since then. 

What RAM/FClk settings are you using if you don't mind me asking?