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X670 / X870 resource thread

Shamino
Moderator

ill use this thread to collect some new test bioses for the boards, maybe also to explain some less understood options

to disable cores ccd go here and choose ccd xx bit map down core.
each ones stand for an enabled core
best to disable from the back, ie:
110000
instead of 0011000
after selection press downcore apply changes or discard if made mistake

ocpak/octools

FAQ:
7950x not boosting pass 5.5G -> check that CStates is not disabled
Detailed Explanation on CState Boot Limiter


Test BIOSes:

new:
X3D OC Preset for those MB with asynch BCLK Support: (for simple slight perf boost for X3D)
97792

DOCP/EXPO Tweaked: (for simple timings tightening)
97793

strixe-e 1515 

strixe-f 1515 

strix e a 1515 

crosshair hero 1515 

crosshair gene 1515 

crosshair extreme 1515 

creator 670 1515

creator b650 1515

strix 650E I

strix 670 itx

 

 

for crosshair and strix e-e:

explanation of segment2 Loadline:

dualseg.jpg

customize a heterogenous loadline for a dual segment workload range.

example above shows loadline=L6 when current is in range of 0~40A, and Level4 when current is above 40A.

 

 

 


Adds for x3d

dynamic ccd priority switch with core flex, os / driver agnostic so win10 win11 ok

97403

97404

Algo as follows:
If condition reached and ccd0 specified, then check current mem/cache activity > threshold and hysteresis reached, if fulfilled then switch
If condition reached and ccd1 specified, then check current mem/cache activity <=threshold and hysteresis reached,, if fulfilled then switch
Default hysteresis =4

Can combine multiple algos for ccd priority so combinations are wide

works on non x3d too but of course senseless on it. detailed explanation here.

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krosette
Level 9

I'm really a fan of Asus (I own a ASUS 540Hz TN panel and my ASUS 480Hz OLED and also an ASUS RTX 4090 OG OC and lot more stuff from ASUS)... I couldn't get my ASUS X670E-E to work. But is this case I fixed all my problems, ordering an MPG X870E Carbon Wifi. The switch took me maybe 45 minutes. Everything works fine so far. BIOS 1A1G# (AGESA 1.2.0.2b). 

Ryzen 7950X3D & 9800X3D, Asus ROG 670E-E & MPG X870E Carbon Wifi, GSkill DDR5 2x32GB CL30 & 2x16GB CL28, 2 x ASUS TUF RTX4090 OC OG, ROG Swift Pro PG248QP and ROG Swift OLED PG27AQDP, Razer Deathadder v3 Pro, Razer Huntsman v3 Pro mini, Custom Water-Cooling

frenzyff
Level 10

No issues here with X670E-Extreme. maybe combination of stuff?

Maddeniels
Level 9

it seems to be a total lottery at this point.

i have a strix x670e-f, and the problems never end. they fix one thing, another thing breaks. i also ordered a new asrock taichi x870 board, and according to their forums, there's only super nieche issues, and no combination thread where the BIOS is the main cause of all headaches.

now, i wouldn't even comment anymore cause announcing departure shouldn't be necessary, but, my current problem is like, i never seen something like that, same as my PC friend which builds his own rigs since 20 years. so this is more of a public announcment for the devs here to look into this parrticular issue i have.

if i change anything in BIOS, aside from turning off the internal GPU, my system after about 30 minutes of running, makes a electricly sounding noise, and freezes completly. so much so that i have to turn off the power supply, cause even the start or reset button on my PC freeze. the PC still stays on tho, it just becomes completly unresponsive with no video signal.

and aside from that, my PC still gets stuck in an infite bootloop in memory training, whilst memory EXPO is off. i downgraded the BIOS and even did the CMOS thing, but it seems to be borked somehow.

once i have the other board, i'm probably going to send it to ASUS as defective, cause those never ending BIOS issues, are a defect in itself. if they repair it, i'm gonna sell it or make one of my friends very happy for cheap, if not, feed it to the shredder. this board ruined my life, no joke.

if i was the only person with issues here, i wouldn't say anything, but, i've been on this board now reading for around 2 years, and all other boardmakers have ironed out most issues, twice, whilst we're here stuck in an infinte same issue memory training BIOS loop.

the lack of communication and detailed overview on the new BIOSes is what F's me up the most. i could've skipped so many BIOSes if i knew that the thing which i wanted to be fixed (the PC not being able to sleep) wasn't even touched for atleast the first year.
also, on top of that, my board for some reason takes almost 3 minutes to boot up. was a total catastrophe for me. and i did all the bells and whistles, so please spare me the "have you turned on memory context restore" comments. i also have some SSD issue which according to microsoft itself, can happen with their operating system on some select SSDs, were starting windows itself after the ASUS splashcreen, takes almost a minute. i also installed win 11 twice on this setup, and win 10 3 times. to evade that aswell, i also got a new boot drive.

still praying that once i take off the CPU from the old board, that i don't see any melt marks, cause i got the 7950X3D on release date, so i was in the risk zone of the AMD caused problem with the high voltage memory issues. but i doubt it. 1905 BIOS and 2505 ran like a charm for me both with zero issues. aside of course that 1905 was impossible to get the PC to sleep for longer than 15 minutes.

atp, i just want to have a functional PC where i can just ignore this whole BIOS and agesa shenanigans until i upgrade my CPU again, even if i leave some potential power on the table. once i forget that trauma here, maybe i'll get back into overclocking. i had a lot of fun with that on my old 8086k intel CPU.

oh and yes, i did the memtest stuff, and my memory is also on the QVL list of ASUS.


@Maddeniels wrote:

 

if i change anything in BIOS, aside from turning off the internal GPU, my system after about 30 minutes of running, makes a electricly sounding noise, and freezes completly. so much so that i have to turn off the power supply, cause even the start or reset button on my PC freeze. the PC still stays on tho, it just becomes completly unresponsive with no video signal.

 


It would be best to document that before attempting to diagnose anything else, ignoring the fact you've not posted any system specs...

1. Initial memory training can take 3 to 5 minutes or more depending on the memory configuration.

2. The inability to wake from sleep states successfully can be caused by an unstable DRAM OC. Probably explains the large majority of your problems. Not everyone is well-versed in memory overclocking. XMP/EXPO is not assured OC. It often will work, but it's still overclocking.

3. Use tools such as Karhu RAM Test and HCI Memtest Pro to properly diagnose an unstable memory overclock.

4. It's been acknowledged that 1202a/b has some memory OC issues for some users (predominantly a-die). I've documented cases for the purpose of replication.

9800X3D / 6400 CAS32 / ROG X870 Crosshair / TUF RTX 4090

What about infinite memory training during reboots or not waking up for sleep with nearly all BIOSses with default settings with X670 ProArt?
The fact that no one from Asus or super moderators acknowledges this shows how bad the support is.

What are you going to suggest ? That I turn on MCR/PD? 0D workaround? or are you going to imply I need to RMA Motherboard/CPU/RAM?

Because guess what I switched to an MSI board and everything works and I mean everything, and it boots under 2 secs.
And just for testing, I put the same components back again into the ProArt and you can assume what happened, same problems

This is not an singular instance.

My spec:
7950X3D
X670 ProArt
F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5NR x2 (64GB total)


@HatsuneMiku39 wrote:

Why is the Standbybug what kills the Standby mode not fixed after Bios Versions 2101 on the ProArt X670 ? I Pay near 500Bucks and become so a big Problem, why ?

I Tried last days the latest Version 2604 and the Problem still exists, and many other new problems comes with this, GPU not Found "Long Small Small Beep" or an Bios error with Message an USB Device consults to many energy and the PC is shutting down in 15 Seconds.

Thats absoluteley not normal what Asus do.


If anyone is reading who have yet to buy an AM5 motherboard. Don't buy from Asus, stay away.
I should have learned my lesson when 2x different Asus X99 Deluxe II boards killed three of my CPU's.

I did not pay 600+USD to become a 2+ year beta-tester.

Im done with Asus.


@ace7 wrote:

What about infinite memory training during reboots or not waking up for sleep with nearly all BIOSses with default settings with X670 ProArt?
The fact that no one from Asus or super moderators acknowledges this shows how bad the support is.

What are you going to suggest ? That I turn on MCR/PD? 0D workaround? or are you going to imply I need to RMA Motherboard/CPU/RAM?

Because guess what I switched to an MSI board and everything works and I mean everything, and it boots under 2 secs.
And just for testing, I put the same components back again into the ProArt and you can assume what happened, same problems

This is not an singular instance.

My spec:
7950X3D
X670 ProArt
F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5NR x2 (64GB total)


@HatsuneMiku39 wrote:

Why is the Standbybug what kills the Standby mode not fixed after Bios Versions 2101 on the ProArt X670 ? I Pay near 500Bucks and become so a big Problem, why ?

I Tried last days the latest Version 2604 and the Problem still exists, and many other new problems comes with this, GPU not Found "Long Small Small Beep" or an Bios error with Message an USB Device consults to many energy and the PC is shutting down in 15 Seconds.

Thats absoluteley not normal what Asus do.


If anyone is reading who have yet to buy an AM5 motherboard. Don't buy from Asus, stay away.
I should have learned my lesson when 2x different Asus X99 Deluxe II boards killed three of my CPU's.

I did not pay 600+USD to become a 2+ year beta-tester.

Im done with Asus.



To be objective, if you've had issues since the release BIOS, I'm not sure why you'd wait until now or why you expect moderators in particular to acknowledge or repro something, a resource thread probably isn't the best place. You're asking users on a forum to acknowledge your support experience without actually mentioning having one. If you want to reach out to CS via the forum, you can post in ROG Care. For non-ROG Products, there's also ZenTalk or contact service directly for your region.

 

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As mentioned previously, waking from S3 problems can be due to unstable memory OC or unstable memory in general (poor pin or pin-pad contact at the CPU), as can instability on soft-reboot. Both of those things can easily indicate the other. However, firmware issues (AGESA) outside of this are certainly not vendor-agnostic, either. Best to keep an open mind with these things.

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/pro-x670-p-wifi-not-waking-up-from-sleep.393315/

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1587861-my-pc-will-not-wake-from-sleep-mode/

https://community.amd.com/t5/pc-processors/problems-waking-pc-from-sleep/td-p/257555

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9800X3D / 6400 CAS32 / ROG X870 Crosshair / TUF RTX 4090


@Silent_Scone wrote:


To be objective, if you've had issues since the release BIOS, I'm not sure why you'd wait until now or why you expect moderators in particular to acknowledge or repro something, a resource thread probably isn't the best place. You're asking users on a forum to acknowledge your support experience without actually mentioning having one. If you want to reach out to CS via the forum, you can post in ROG Care. For non-ROG Products, there's also ZenTalk or contact service directly for your region.

As mentioned previously, waking from S3 problems can be due to unstable memory OC or unstable memory in general (poor pin or pin-pad contact at the CPU), as can instability on soft-reboot. Both of those things can easily indicate the other. However, firmware issues (AGESA) outside of this are certainly not vendor-agnostic, either. Best to keep an open mind with these things.

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/pro-x670-p-wifi-not-waking-up-from-sleep.393315/

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1587861-my-pc-will-not-wake-from-sleep-mode/

https://community.amd.com/t5/pc-processors/problems-waking-pc-from-sleep/td-p/257555


This type of response is what I'm talking about... What are you trying to say? Just because you think I don't have a support ticket my thoughts are invalid?

The reason for why I want acknowledgment is that as you can see for yourself, people are having problems with memory-training and I'm not alone in this and all you do is to make our claims invalid by saying, yeah pins are badly connected, bad memory, bad/unstable overclock, bad e.t.c

When does it stop being our fault instead of your/asus fault?

And we both know, Asus support won't help me with this, stop kidding yourself.
Will Asus make a special BIOS just for me?

They would suggest RMA but not a deep dive into the issues. I mean if you wont even acknowledge this, why would Asus Support?
They would never suggest that pins have bad connections to the CPU....but bad memory, sure. And thats why I post here.

Also again, had my ProART on default settings, no overclock.

X_Disturbed_X
Level 9

 

I may found a solution to PCIE X16 slot to max out @ gen2 or gen3.  (x870e crosshair hero)

in bios i changed the "Alteration PCIe mode switch" function to fan control instead of pcie gen control.

i have been testing it for 3 days, no problems so far.

pardon me but are we early adopters of a startup project that i havent been informed about ?


@X_Disturbed_X wrote:

 

I may found a solution to PCIE X16 slot to max out @ gen2 or gen3.  (x870e crosshair hero)

in bios i changed the "Alteration PCIe mode switch" function to fan control instead of pcie gen control.

i have been testing it for 3 days, no problems so far.

pardon me but are we early adopters of a startup project that i havent been informed about ?


 

correcting myself. no the problem still persist....

HatsuneMiku39
Level 8

Why is the Standbybug what kills the Standby mode not fixed after Bios Versions 2101 on the ProArt X670 ? I Pay near 500Bucks and become so a big Problem, why ?

I Tried last days the latest Version 2604 and the Problem still exists, and many other new problems comes with this, GPU not Found "Long Small Small Beep" or an Bios error with Message an USB Device consults to many energy and the PC is shutting down in 15 Seconds.

Thats absoluteley not normal what Asus do.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hatsune_Miku39/saved/#view=QYq7CJ My PC