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X670 / X870 resource thread

Shamino
Moderator

ill use this thread to collect some new test bioses for the boards, maybe also to explain some less understood options

to disable cores ccd go here and choose ccd xx bit map down core.
each ones stand for an enabled core
best to disable from the back, ie:
110000
instead of 0011000
after selection press downcore apply changes or discard if made mistake

ocpak/octools

FAQ:
7950x not boosting pass 5.5G -> check that CStates is not disabled
Detailed Explanation on CState Boot Limiter


Test BIOSes:

new:
X3D OC Preset for those MB with asynch BCLK Support: (for simple slight perf boost for X3D)
97792

DOCP/EXPO Tweaked: (for simple timings tightening)
97793

strixe-e 1515 

strixe-f 1515 

strix e a 1515 

crosshair hero 1515 

crosshair gene 1515 

crosshair extreme 1515 

creator 670 1515

creator b650 1515

strix 650E I

strix 670 itx

 

 

for crosshair and strix e-e:

explanation of segment2 Loadline:

dualseg.jpg

customize a heterogenous loadline for a dual segment workload range.

example above shows loadline=L6 when current is in range of 0~40A, and Level4 when current is above 40A.

 

 

 


Adds for x3d

dynamic ccd priority switch with core flex, os / driver agnostic so win10 win11 ok

97403

97404

Algo as follows:
If condition reached and ccd0 specified, then check current mem/cache activity > threshold and hysteresis reached, if fulfilled then switch
If condition reached and ccd1 specified, then check current mem/cache activity <=threshold and hysteresis reached,, if fulfilled then switch
Default hysteresis =4

Can combine multiple algos for ccd priority so combinations are wide

works on non x3d too but of course senseless on it. detailed explanation here.

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After many weeks of testing we came to the conclusion that the 0d could be due to Monitoring software.
E.g. Armoury Crate, msi afterburner, lian li l-connect, HWinfo and so on.
Shamino introduced a workaround which we can test with 2505
You can find it under Tweakers Paradise. Set it to Enabled

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and yes turbo mode will cripple your 7950X3D into a 7800X3D without SMT

 

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Got it, thanks for the swift reply!

Side question, but don't feel obliged to answer: Is there a reason this fix is not directly/permanently integrated?
Will it break other stuff if enabled?
Or is it because some monitor softwares are doing something "out of spec" and they have to fix on their end?

hiryu
Level 9

2505 is stable for me with Expo II on both my Crosshair x670e Extreme and my Strix x670e-e systems _so far_.

To follow up on my intermittent NVME detection issue:
I received my Strix x670e-e back a few weeks ago that I had sent in for RMA with one of the M.2 slots only intermittently detecting Gen 4 NVME SSD's (Gen 3 worked everytime). The box had a note that Asus was unable to reproduce the issue with a small side note about replacing a capacitor. I nearly tossed the board into the garbage and bought a replacement from a different vendor as I have very little free time... But figured there was a tiny chance it was fixed due to the replaced capacitor. Well, good thing I took the time to test the board, because the issue has been fixed (hasn't occurred again even once since reinstalling the board 2-3 weeks ago)!

I tried contacting Asus support regarding the capacitor replacement... And the response I received was just a repeat of "Couldn't reproduce the issue"... Even though I had asked why the capacitor had been replaced (since the documentation doesn't mention anything other than it being replaced). Did Asus try to reproduce the board before after replacing the capacitor? They didn't even answer that either (but probably afterwards). There was no visible physical damage to the board, so I'm also unsure how they found that issue (but probably there are standard tests).

In my past experience, I have found that failing capacitors can cause intermittent issues... Since this was the only change to the board, that is most likely the fix.

Although I did get my board back with the issue fixed... Their printed documentation included with the returned board had strongly lead me to believe other wise... No clarification as to what happened (especially in light the documentation mostly saying they couldn't reproduce the issue so just sent the board back)... I will say it was a overall a very poor support experience.

So if you go through a similar process with your board, probably still worth trying it again.

ace7
Level 9

I'm still having the same reboot issue with
Monitoring Software reboot Workaround Enabled + PowerDown Enabled  + MCR Enabled
7950X3D
X670 ProArt
G.Skill F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5NR 2x32GB

I'm not using or have installed any monitoring software.

Did you try custom voltages? This was the fix for me, using the same kit as yours.
I have reboot (0d) issues once I set anything below 1.4V for MC Voltage. Didn't get the chance to check if VDD/VDDQ would work on a lower voltage but these are stable for me:
CPU VDDIO / MC Voltage [1.40010]
DRAM VDD Voltage [1.40000]
DRAM VDDQ Voltage [1.40000]

Power Down Enable [Enabled]
Memory Context Restore [Enabled]
PMIC Force Continuous Current Mode [Enabled]

Make sure to use the F9 (search) function and change in all places

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Thank you!
I forgot to mention in my post earlier that I also changed the voltages.

I've CPU VDDIO / MC set to 1.4 and DRAM VDD / VDDQ to 1.42, tested earlier with 1.41
Same Issue, cannot get this system to reboot properly.

On another note the 2505 beta BIOS increased my Cinebench R23 results with over 2000 points (36548 in score) and performance seems better.

@ShaminoAny ideas?

andersc
Level 9

@Shamino Can you please refresh the Thunderbolt drivers on motherboard download pages and update the Thunderbolt firmware (JHL8540)?

Getting window stuttering issue when I'm using a 40gbps external nvme enclosure in pcie tunneling mode so I'm wondering if this is fixed in a recent driver/firmware.

polyh3dron
Level 10

It appears that either this Monitoring Software Workaround in the new BIOS, or setting my CPU VDDIO / MC to 1.41, or a combination has fixed my Od restart issue. I’ve done two restarts now with HWiNFO running in the background and it’s been working fine so far. Thank you @Shamino !

Let it never be said that complaining incessantly about an issue on the ROG forums in the face of people dismissing it due to needing to update BIOS, GPU drivers, turning off EXPO, and all the other things that I’ve already done and other things like reseating the CPU, swapping out the CPU, RAM, PSU, etc can’t yield results.

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ksenchy
Level 12

All good on the new beta BIOS on x670E-F and 7900x.

Thanks.

magix86
Level 10

Hello,

thanks all and thank you Asus for this new bios, more stable than their predecessors.

what are the links between enhanced mode 70°, 80° and 90° (Ai Tweak menu\Precision Boost\ ) and all others options in bios (CO, shaper, boostclock, power)
with enhanced 80°, Ryzen Master show me CO -10 all cores, and scalar x10, despite a reinit profile in RM, and auto values in bios.
Or does the enhanced mode only use temp. and no other options ?
Is there somewhere a document relative to this fonction that describe it ?

Update: Whea, pre-leak, boot loop, 4 unexpected reboot on 5 days working or not, no logs, unstable: re-rollback 2007.....

something is blocked in the common backup memory area of bios param and ACrate, loose of access to meters, loose info in Ryzen Master, same with AC and HWinfo, and CPU block at 3800MHz after 2 days, loose of control and reboot on mouse move...no luck this time either..i'm starting to despair..2 days without any troubles, and the problems started and got worse, without any modification of config, haven't had time to test, the basic stock param doesn't hold.

Have a good day

Magix86