10-04-2022 06:30 AM - edited 10-18-2023 07:20 AM
ill use this thread to collect some new test bioses for the boards, maybe also to explain some less understood options
to disable cores ccd go here and choose ccd xx bit map down core.
each ones stand for an enabled core
best to disable from the back, ie:
110000
instead of 0011000
after selection press downcore apply changes or discard if made mistake
ocpak/octools
FAQ:
7950x not boosting pass 5.5G -> check that CStates is not disabled
Detailed Explanation on CState Boot Limiter
Test BIOSes:
new:
X3D OC Preset for those MB with asynch BCLK Support: (for simple slight perf boost for X3D)
DOCP/EXPO Tweaked: (for simple timings tightening)
strixe-e 1515
for crosshair and strix e-e:
explanation of segment2 Loadline:
customize a heterogenous loadline for a dual segment workload range.
example above shows loadline=L6 when current is in range of 0~40A, and Level4 when current is above 40A.
Adds for x3d
dynamic ccd priority switch with core flex, os / driver agnostic so win10 win11 ok
Algo as follows:
If condition reached and ccd0 specified, then check current mem/cache activity > threshold and hysteresis reached, if fulfilled then switch
If condition reached and ccd1 specified, then check current mem/cache activity <=threshold and hysteresis reached,, if fulfilled then switch
Default hysteresis =4
Can combine multiple algos for ccd priority so combinations are wide
works on non x3d too but of course senseless on it. detailed explanation here.
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05-12-2023 03:40 PM
Have you tried removing power saving for Thunderbolt/USB hubs in device manager?
05-12-2023 04:42 PM
Yes. Power savings (uncheck) in Windows sis nothing.
System is very stable and buttery smooth when TB/USB4 is disabled in bios.
But… I shot myself in the foot because my USB interface and external SSD is Thunderbolt and of course would not even discover if this is disabled in Windows.
I found then a viable compromise. Go back to bios and instead of disabling TB/USB4 set it at half speed (40Gbps > 20Gbps) and problem solved as well.
Just trying to find a coloration.
this has been happening on pretty much every bios I had (production or not) so I assume it’s some sort of a bug.
05-12-2023 07:38 PM - edited 05-12-2023 07:46 PM
"1412 been super stable"
As always, please state what you mean by "stable". I can pass any benchmark using 1412, I can leave my computer on and alone for hours and it won't crash, but since it crashes on W40K Darktide ( which is my current "is it really stable" test ) I don't consider it stable at all.
I used Death Stranding for a while, since it is also pretty quick to crash as soon as a clock or voltage is wrong.
Leaving a computer on doing nothing and passing benchmarks is the minimum expected of a computer and doesn't labels it as "stable" in my opinion.
Like the answer above yours, 128Gb ram means no Expo or at least no overclock on RAM (since you are limited to two sticks for that) so of course it gets easier to stabilize it if you don't use the buggy features ^^
Do you use PBO? Any overclock? Any undervolt? Ram speed? What tests do you perform?
Stating stable or not doesn't mean anything if you don't explain what you tried...
Edit: Besides, people are getting all cranked up since those youtube videos. Please remember that there were people trying to make the situation better months ago 😉
You don't need a new bios to limit your Vsoc to 1.3 either. And I've been using 1202 since it released up until now with overclock+undervolt etc and my CPU is fine and still hasn't exploded ^^
Is Asus doing crap? Yes indeed. Does that mean we can't use our CPUs safely? Far from it.
05-12-2023 09:55 PM - edited 05-12-2023 10:06 PM
by Stable (for now) I mean working for a day in blender, Topaz AI, Autocad and some Jedi Survivor in between with no crashes, blue screens etc.
PBO and Expo enabled (DDR-6000 for 2x32G Gskill CL30) and compliant in QVL.
I really wish retraining was a bit faster for memory 🙂
05-12-2023 11:35 PM
My criterion of stability is successful build of gcc with 32 threads, PGO and LTO enabled.
05-12-2023 04:31 PM
Can not say anything about USB4 problem because I use only Linux. Here all is OK.
05-12-2023 10:58 PM
i'm still on 1410 and get random spontanious reboots without any bsod or errors. since this didnt happen before bios 13xx i believe it has to do with uefi... any ideas? it only happens during gaming.
i'm running the system without expo activated at 4800 and -15 on CO.
if it where from the CO, shouldnt i get a proper bsod or just a crashing program?
05-13-2023 12:32 AM
When one of my cores offsets was too low it resulted in system reboots as you described.
05-13-2023 01:25 AM
Too much negative CO manifests itself exactly as spontaneous reboots, no crash, no bsod
05-13-2023 12:43 AM
Well then, we all have different standards and definition for "stable" then, corresponding to our use of computers I guess ^^
Shouldn't we all agree on a specific test ?
I know it can be difficult and that different systems with different settings will behave in different ways , but as of now any mention of stable or not is very subjective.
And even then, finding the perfect test is an impossible task. As I said earlier , I could run benchmarks with no issues but had crash in several games (not all of course...).
Those are my main use of my computer, therefore even if everything else works I would call it unstable.
Anyone has an idea?
Again one of the changes I made in 1202 to get a perfectly stable system was going from 15 to 13 undervolt. Everything worked at 15, except the most prone to crash games. But at 13 everything works, period. Those 0.002V (if I'm not mistaken here) made all the difference between crash every 5 minutes and no crash at all... So, can that setting at 15 considered stable, given it works in most situation but not all?
Honest question here, I'm not trying to troll or start anything ^^