10-04-2022 06:30 AM - edited 07-19-2023 11:31 PM
ill use this thread to collect some new test bioses for the boards, maybe also to explain some less understood options
to disable cores ccd go here and choose ccd xx bit map down core.
each ones stand for an enabled core
best to disable from the back, ie:
110000
instead of 0011000
after selection press downcore apply changes or discard if made mistake
ocpak/octools
octool port to linux
FAQ:
7950x not boosting pass 5.5G -> check that CStates is not disabled
Detailed Explanation on CState Boot Limiter
Test BIOSes:
new:
X3D OC Preset for those MB with asynch BCLK Support: (for simple slight perf boost for X3D)
DOCP/EXPO Tweaked: (for simple timings tightening)
strixe-e 1515
for crosshair and strix e-e:
explanation of segment2 Loadline:
customize a heterogenous loadline for a dual segment workload range.
example above shows loadline=L6 when current is in range of 0~40A, and Level4 when current is above 40A.
Adds for x3d
dynamic ccd priority switch with core flex, os / driver agnostic so win10 win11 ok
Algo as follows:
If condition reached and ccd0 specified, then check current mem/cache activity > threshold and hysteresis reached, if fulfilled then switch
If condition reached and ccd1 specified, then check current mem/cache activity <=threshold and hysteresis reached,, if fulfilled then switch
Default hysteresis =4
Can combine multiple algos for ccd priority so combinations are wide
works on non x3d too but of course senseless on it. detailed explanation here.
Solved! Go to Solution.
04-27-2023 01:24 PM
@SkyBeam wrote:
Setting a fixed limit might apply higher voltage in some situations than actually required. Or cause the limit to be too low in situations higher voltages are actually required.
Might. Period.
Telling people to use offsets is the best way to make their board past beyond 1.30 VSOC.
Fixing 1.25 VSOC with auto or lvl 1 LLC, is the safest way to go and I can tell it doesn't involve instability on my rig.
04-27-2023 01:42 PM
Telling people to use offsets is the best way to make their board past beyond 1.30 VSOC.Fixing 1.25 VSOC with auto or lvl 1 LLC, is the safest way to go and I can tell it doesn't involve instability on my rig.
Unless you know the exact code used for voltage regulation this is just an assumption
You're essentially asking people to permanently overvolt the SOC to 1.25V just to avoid situations where it "might" exceed safe voltages under situations which are not yet clear. Also it's not yet clear if permanently fixed voltage prevents voltage to spike (bugs might cause to ignore fixed voltages under some circumstances too).
So my SOC on "Auto" using EXPO-Tweaked and MC voltage of 1.37V is running at SOC 1.176V currently (set to AUTO, offset -0.05) in BIOS 1413.
Also there is just a BIOS released which seems to cap SOC voltage to 1.30V under any circumstances. So it might be time to revise the advise to set a fixed voltage very close to the absolute maximum.
But sure this is just an advise from my experience and my advise might be as good as yours and everyone is free to chose any settings but has to live with the consequences. Having said that the only safe advise until further notice might be to use Auto/JEDEC timing and not using EXPO.
04-27-2023 01:54 PM
@SkyBeam wrote:
this is just an assumption
"might" might might might might
I'm not the one making asumptions and advising people to go the funky undetermined offset way 🤣
Buildzoid confirmed 1.25 VSOC works, I can confirm it works, and there's no stupid "might" in this sentence.
Most people, and it seems it's the same for you, actually don't know what will happen on F10 using offset roulette, so don't tell people to use it.
04-28-2023 09:52 AM
@SkyBeam wrote:
Telling people to use offsets is the best way to make their board past beyond 1.30 VSOC.Fixing 1.25 VSOC with auto or lvl 1 LLC, is the safest way to go and I can tell it doesn't involve instability on my rig.
Unless you know the exact code used for voltage regulation this is just an assumption
You're essentially asking people to permanently overvolt the SOC to 1.25V just to avoid situations where it "might" exceed safe voltages under situations which are not yet clear. Also it's not yet clear if permanently fixed voltage prevents voltage to spike (bugs might cause to ignore fixed voltages under some circumstances too).
So my SOC on "Auto" using EXPO-Tweaked and MC voltage of 1.37V is running at SOC 1.176V currently (set to AUTO, offset -0.05) in BIOS 1413.
Also there is just a BIOS released which seems to cap SOC voltage to 1.30V under any circumstances. So it might be time to revise the advise to set a fixed voltage very close to the absolute maximum.
But sure this is just an advise from my experience and my advise might be as good as yours and everyone is free to chose any settings but has to live with the consequences. Having said that the only safe advise until further notice might be to use Auto/JEDEC timing and not using EXPO.
No more VSOC offset in 1303, wonder why 😂
04-28-2023 10:26 AM
No more VSOC offset in 1303, wonder why 😂
Well. No 1303 for my X670-P and BIOS 1413 released yesterday does still have it and I am happily using it with -0.06V offset resulting in 1.17 to 1.20V being applied on my system. But if I were ASUS I would now be very careful and even remove options which can be misused and are not fool-proof. Unfortunately this will lead to some options or value ranges being removed which are required for some extreme configurations (at risk of damaging hardware).
Perhaps mainboard manufacturers should think about locking down the settings to allow only safe options and ranges until a disclaimer has been signed. Still allowing people who know what they do or willing to risk damages can make full use of the potential even if it's unsafe.
Soon we will have ComboAM5Pi 1.0.0.7 BIOS dropping in with additional fixes.
04-27-2023 12:47 PM
I had this issue the first day I got my motherboard, X670E Gene and 7950x3D, picked up the motherboard last weekend, BIOS 1202.
After dialling in manual ram timings and voltages, never experienced it again.
04-27-2023 01:11 PM
This is the protection mechanism introduced for x3d when cpu temp over 95c. Was the processor running very hot ?
04-27-2023 01:48 PM - edited 04-27-2023 01:53 PM
@Shamino No, its under a custom loop, and was idling at about 36 ° C. A friend of me had the same happening to him with his 7900x3d. His was not overheating as well. I switched back to 1101 and limited soc voltage to 1.3 manually, no problems at all. but not feeling safe 😞
04-27-2023 02:01 PM
@dg1qktr wrote:
limited soc voltage to 1.3 manually, no problems at all. but not feeling safe 😞
Check your VSOC under windows, 1.3 fixed will probly be higher once LLC made its job.
04-27-2023 02:03 PM
Hwinfo says 1.3