Considering the TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS WiFi, reasons to avoid?

[moonshiner2025]

Hi there,

Maybe it's the wrong place to ask, because it's an Asus forum.

I'm really interested in this motherboard, but I'm concerned that it has issues such as very long boot times?

This shows up on Amazon and Newegg reviews often.

Can any users comment on this? Any other concerns with this board?

Thanks!

[Talon1]

I have this board and when I booted it up first time it took quite awhile. I thought I did something wrong.

I read about memory context restore  in the bios so I set it to Enabled. First boot after that was long but since then all boots are under a minute. I'm very happy with this board. 7900x3d/Strix 4090 oc.32gig DDR5 6000.

[Silent_Scone · Accepted solution]

Hi @moonshiner2025 

If anything, Amazon reviews are probably not the place you want to be looking for feedback on products. Especially when it comes to DRAM behaviour. There's a lot of chatter from people who aren't aware of what conditions can be considered normal for one platform to the next.

Intial DRAM training on AM5 can and does take some time depending on the memory installed (3 to 5 minutes) and the UEFI configuration. This pertains to POST times, rather than boot times. Beyond this, there's really not much else one can say. Once the system has conducted this following a cleared CMOS, there isn't an issue and the time from power on to the OS is generally quite fast. 

I'll upload a video here of my daily X870E Hero system.

https://streamable.com/z0qlnc

There's also the fact some users confuse overclocking instability with considerable POST length. This is because the subroutines will attempt to retrain a set number of times following an unsuccessful attempt, for which the reason is normally an unstable overclock.

In short, whilst AMD's platform does have a longer initial process than Intel's, it's not a dealbreaker. As one user above has already mentioned, once you've established the system is stable once in the operating system using the appropriate methods you can enable Memory Context Restore (MCR) which will retain the last known successful training parameters in the majority of cases, but a full retrain is often required when changing parameters.

[salmawisoky]

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@Silent_Scone wrote:

Hi @moonshiner2025 

If anything, Amazon reviews are probably not the place you want to be looking for feedback on products. Especially when it comes to DRAM behaviour. There's a lot of chatter from people who aren't aware of what conditions can be considered normal for one platform to the next.

Intial DRAM training on AM5 can and does take some time depending on the memory installed (3 to 5 minutes) and the UEFI configuration. This pertains to POST times, rather than boot times. Beyond this, there's really not much else one can say. Once the system has conducted this following a cleared CMOS, there isn't an issue and the time from power on to the OS is generally quite fast. 

I'll upload a video here of my daily X870E Hero system.

https://streamable.com/z0qlncdriftboss

There's also the fact some users confuse overclocking instability with considerable POST length. This is because the subroutines will attempt to retrain a set number of times following an unsuccessful attempt, for which the reason is normally an unstable overclock.

In short, whilst AMD's platform does have a longer initial process than Intel's, it's not a dealbreaker. As one user above has already mentioned, once you've established the system is stable once in the operating system using the appropriate methods you can enable Memory Context Restore (MCR) which will retain the last known successful training parameters in the majority of cases, but a full retrain is often required when changing parameters.

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 Great

[Tarvoskemwer]

I have that board, the long "boot" is easily fixed, I enabled "Memory Power Down" and "Memory Context Restore" in bios - then it boots in seconds. Only time it doesn't is if it needs to retrain the memory, which is very rare.

The only issue I've had with it is that it didn't want to boot after I did a bad power down and it didn't want to post. I had to reset the bios and pull out 1 memory and boot with 1 stick only to resolve it. Really weird issue, but it was fixable.

Other than that, then it's been stable.

[Silent_Scone]

No POST means the memory OC is conditional, best to test memory stability prior to enabling MCR as alluded to above 

[Tarvoskemwer]

Resetting the bios didn't help, that's the odd thing, because that turns off EXPO. It wasn't until I powered up with only one module that it would post, then I could power down, reinsert it again turn on EXPO again - and it's worked since. And yes, they are QVL.

Had to to a bios flashback to get the board up and running when I first bought it, which was weird, but I assume someone returned it after having botched a bios update and it didn't get checked at the shop. Found a fingerprint on the cpu backplate too.

But, as I said, it's been stable - also with EXPO 1,2, etc.

[Silent_Scone]

Yes that's peculiar, may be a slight contact issue or something stuck in NVRAM. POST certainly shouldn't "fail" at Optimised Defaults. The difficulty with AM5 is people often confuse a failed POST following a CMOS clear with simply how long the system will take to train (Q-Code 15)

[Tarvoskemwer]

Also did a long wait when it occurred, and it went way beyond the normal time it takes to train, hence why I began reseating etc.

But still think it's a solid board

[moonshiner2025]

Thank you all for your input!

I ended up getting the PRIME X670E-PRO WIFI, beautiful board I must say. Lot's of setting up to do, but I'll create a new thread for that.

Thanks again! 😀