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mito1172 wrote:
I guess you're kidding. Even in the 3000 series, this bios is problematic


What are you talking about? I don't understand. for 1st and 2nd Gen CPUs, they only need the last AGESA 1.0.0.6 BIOS they released which was a while ago.

Of course with 3rd gen, stay on the most recent BIOS you can.

TechyInAZ wrote:
What are you talking about? I don't understand. for 1st and 2nd Gen CPUs, they only need the last AGESA 1.0.0.6 BIOS they released which was a while ago.

Of course with 3rd gen, stay on the most recent BIOS you can.


If you're talking about the latest bios 7501 it is already problematic. Even in the 3rd series
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mito1172 wrote:
If you're talking about the latest bios 7501 it is already problematic. Even in the 3rd series


Techy is saying that there is no gains for 1st or 2nd gen with the newer bios. You are better sticking to an older bios with 1.0.0.6.

It is irrelevant that 3rd gen is problematic when you don't have a 3rd gen CPU. If 3rd gen is having issues, then 1st gen isn't going to be any better. The newer bios also cut out most of the options in AMD CBS for 1st and 2nd gen. These newer bios have also brought back the cold boot bug and fan issues. So not sure why you would want to regress your 1st gen CPU.

TLDR: Either use a older better/stable bios or upgrade to a 3rd gen. A 3600 can be picked up cheap and outperform a 1800X in cinebench and other apps. Gaming performance is another level

Just got my 3700X, i take these boost values are ok for 1.0.0.3 ABBA (probably shouldn't expect more cores to reach advertised 4.4ghz)? Nothing done in BIOS on the CPU side, everything default/auto currently.

82100

igralec84 wrote:
Just got my 3700X, i take these boost values are ok for 1.0.0.3 ABBA (probably shouldn't expect more cores to reach advertised 4.4ghz)? Nothing done in BIOS on the CPU side, everything default/auto currently.


Glad that you got it finally. Yes, this is what I got too. 3 cores to 4425, 3 cores to 4375, and 2 cores 4350. With Gupsterg's mod based on 2501 I had 4 or even 5 cores boosting to 4400, but despite the frequency was higher, the performance was lower.
Most importantly - how is your stability?

EZ_PC_TECH wrote:
Glad that you got it finally. Yes, this is what I got too. 3 cores to 4425, 3 cores to 4375, and 2 cores 4350. With Gupsterg's mod based on 2501 I had 4 or even 5 cores boosting to 4400, but despite the frequency was higher, the performance was lower.
Most importantly - how is your stability?


Great, so boost is good now.
I haven't had a BSOD since Saturday when i switched to Ryzen Balanced plan with freshly installed chipset drivers with the 3600X, i'm now currently on 2133 RAM but will load up the 3200 CL14 for daily use now and use 3600 CL14 for 3Dmark points boost, maybe even try the 3600 CL16 1.35v for daily use, that's supposed to be as stable as 3200 CL14. And will see if the BSODs return then.

EDIT: done some quick 3Dmark runs with all core 4.35ghz @ 1.4v and a manual 3200 CL14, quite satisfied so far, still have a lot of reserve (3-4°C lower room temp, 3600 CL14 profile and 100% fan speed all the time). 4.4ghz will probably be possible between 1.45v and 1.48v, but just for benchmark use, don't really OC for anything else manually. Noticed the CPU is quite new, 1930SUS so end of July if i'm not mistaken.

Jesus... Now I have this issue with the latest BIOS: The platform firmware has corrupted memory across the previous system power transition. Please check for updated firmware for your system.
Windows blames BIOS in crashes/issues related to waking up from S3 state.

Waking up from sleep has always been problematic for me, at first i suspected BSODs from that.

Anyway had a BSOD while i was taking a shower, got back to it and it was frozen so it couldn't even display the BSOD sentence correctly and didn't leave a minidump, also didn't restart so no idea what happened.
Might have to double check the 3200 cl14 safe manual profile or raise SOC and VDDP voltage as i tried the lowest ones, 975 SOC and 700 VDDP. Since 2133 worked for 3 days, it must be the RAM OC, although maybe it would be best to fresh install chipset drivers again for the new CPU. Or maybe needs some more memory training as it only got one run with this setting.

Sometimes i really wonder if this BIOS saves everything you change or uses the values you put in.

igralec84 wrote:
Waking up from sleep has always been problematic for me, at first i suspected BSODs from that.

Anyway had a BSOD while i was taking a shower, got back to it and it was frozen so it couldn't even display the BSOD sentence correctly and didn't leave a minidump, also didn't restart so no idea what happened.
Might have to double check the 3200 cl14 safe manual profile or raise SOC and VDDP voltage as i tried the lowest ones, 975 SOC and 700 VDDP. Since 2133 worked for 3 days, it must be the RAM OC, although maybe it would be best to fresh install chipset drivers again for the new CPU. Or maybe needs some more memory training as it only got one run with this setting.

Sometimes i really wonder if this BIOS saves everything you change or uses the values you put in.


Try setting everything at default except RAM, for RAM use DOCP (and you can give it some more juice, 1.37-1.39V; to Ram, not CPU). Also, because of all the BSODs, maybe your win installation is corrupted.
Open elevated Powershell (as Admin) and type: ''DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth''. After that's completed type ''sfc /scannow''.
All without quotes.
That should repair your win installation, you can also reinstall win from scratch.

Diskach wrote:
Try setting everything at default except RAM, for RAM use DOCP (and you can give it some more juice, 1.37-1.39V; to Ram, not CPU). Also, because of all the BSODs, maybe your win installation is corrupted.
Open elevated Powershell (as Admin) and type: ''DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth''. After that's completed type ''sfc /scannow''.
All without quotes.
That should repair your win installation, you can also reinstall win from scratch.


I tried all that in the last month and a half, even with no errors or corruption and also no memory errors in tests, i was getting 2-4 BSODs per day on idle. Switching to Ryzen Balanced plan stopped them, maybe staying at 2133 RAM also helped, now i'm back to 3200 CL14 with manual timings.

How much stuff from the Ryzen Calculator do you guys put it except the timings, SOC + VDDP + VDDG + PLL voltages, command rate, power down, gear down and procODT? Do you have to also set the RTT and CAD_BUS stuff?

In 3Dmark, it seems all core 4400 is stable (well doesn't crash, i'm sure prime95 or cinebench would) at 1.4v, that's pretty good although not for regular use of course.