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i'm on 7401, after doing some game testing, i've noticed semi frequent LONG stutters with audio going nuts in Deus Ex Mankind Divided. Ryzen 3600 with C6H.

Update: So running the CPU-Z stress test or benchmark a few times, then afterwards the computer completely crashes. Can't access critical system files. So it isn't exactly a BSOD, but rather it seems stuff gets disconnected according to the data i see when this happens.

Also, I see the Performance Bias function has been updated for 3rd Gen Ryzen, what is it's default position? I hope it is none.

xeizo wrote:
Ok, so you are running a manual OC, that explains a lot. I'm rather fond of Auto OC for the downclocks and energy savings, but I will dig deeper into manual OC when the 3900X arrives, as individual core OC in Ryzen Master looks like a very nice option. Even better than all core OC 🙂


well you missing out cause with manual overclocking it all works cores goes to sleep and on windows cpu draws like 26w


GUYS
On other note Dont have PCIE on AUTO set gen 3 i think Gen 4 is bugged like agesa does not ahve it but auto tris to turn it on and you get stutter

ZEEED wrote:
well you missing out cause with manual overclocking it all works cores goes to sleep and on windows cpu draws like 26w


GUYS
On other note Dont have PCIE on AUTO set gen 3 i think Gen 4 is bugged like agesa does not ahve it but auto tris to turn it on and you get stutter


That explains why the Nvidia driver reinstalled itself with 2701, I have had no stutter at all on 2501, it looks like a AGESA 1.0.0.3-thing.

edit. My cores go to sleep just fine with Auto OC, on 2501, but I will explore manual OC anyways.
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Same here, when i went to 7401 my GPU driver re-initalized.

Changed my M.2 and Nvidia GPU to GEN 3 manually. Thanks for that!!!

Oh and I recommend setting performance Bias to none, I changed that just recently, and it seems to be working better.

mikev190 wrote:
BCLK seems broken on the C6H. Just forces the cpu into overclock mode and drops to baseclock 1.2v.


To make boost work with BCLK you need to set core performance boost to enabled, set the vcoltage to offset mode without any changes to the actual offset, and then enable PBO/Default/AutoOC profile from windows Ryzen Master.
https://i.imgur.com/ZQIkZV7.png
Clocks while playing Apex with BCLK at 102.6

edit wrong quote

gupsterg
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I can't say 2602 or 2701 are any different in windows usage, seem as smooth as 2406/2501/0068.

Default ProODT had shifted in 0068/2602/2701 vs 2406/2501, 40 vs 60.

In 2701 RTT defaults when using 4x8GB has changed vs 2406/2501/0068/2602. Instead of 34/120/240 (7/2/1) it's now 34/80/240 (7/3/1).

I watch post process voltages on digital multimeter, to not have SOC bounce to ~1.1V and then my set value on:-

i) UEFI 2406/2501 I use AMD Overclocking to set SOC and also set VDDP/VDDG there.

ii) UEFI 0068/2602 I use Extreme Tweaker/Tweakers Paradise.

ii) UEFI 2701 I use AMD Overclocking to set SOC, must have SOC voltage mode on Extreme Tweaker as Offset/Auto/+ and also set VDDP/VDDG in AMD Overclocking.

If I do as stated on each UEFI, then through complete POST process SOC as set value excluding usual droop as LLC is [Auto].

All UEFI so far allow 3800MHz on 4x8GB for me also.
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gupsterg wrote:
I can't say 2602 or 2701All UEFI so far allow 3800MHz on 4x8GB for me also.


I have 2x16GB dual rank, and the same settings did not work in both bioses. The memory settings which are rock solid in 2501 made the board sound the alarm signal at boot and reset to 2133MHz/c15. Same settings and just a bump from 1.35V to 1.37V made 3733MHz work, but not 3800MHz.
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ZEEED wrote:
:@gupsterg new performance bias on this 2701 CB15 Agressive must be mega aggressive crashed on windows loading hahaahha


Yes seen the updated PB settings, not tried them yet.


xeizo wrote:
I have 2x16GB dual rank, and the same settings did not work in both bioses. The memory settings which are rock solid in 2501 made the board sound the alarm signal at boot and reset to 2133MHz/c15. Same settings and just a bump from 1.35V to 1.37V made 3733MHz work, but not 3800MHz.


Dunno. Only thing I can think of is if you're not manually setting ProODT then [Auto] has a differing default for UEFI 2406 & 2501 vs the other releases.
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gupsterg wrote:
Yes seen the updated PB settings, not tried them yet.




Dunno. Only thing I can think of is if you're not manually setting ProODT then [Auto] has a differing default for UEFI 2406 & 2501 vs the other releases.



I always set ProcODT manual, my default is 36.9 Ohm, tried 34 Ohm worked at 3733 but not 3800. Rock solid in 2501.
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xeizo wrote:
I always set ProcODT manual, my default is 36.9 Ohm, tried 34 Ohm worked at 3733 but not 3800. Rock solid in 2501.


Ahh OK.

xeizo wrote:
Yes, I forgot, but several Linux distributions can't boot on 2501 while they can on 2701. But for Windows usage 2501 is still more complete, and 2701 introduces new bugs like you must set PCIE manual or Windows will be unstable not exactly newbie friendly.

Nor is it that boost is broken, will raise lots of complaints from newbies. The hardcore OC crowd is not bothered.


Didn't set PCI-E, TBH never set it on any UEFI of AM4/SP3r2.

Boost stock CPU is fine for me on 1.0.0.3AB & ABB, where I note difference is PBO+xxxMHz. On a UEFI prior to 1.0.0.3AB I will have ~4.3-4.34GHz ACB when using PBO+150MHz on non extreme CPU loads, on later UEFI CPU barely breaks past 4.275GHz, see WMVs in this ZIP.

People may just have to accept boost behaviour if AMD do not change SMU FW parameters, link.

2701 vs 2602 has much better "recovery", when board Q-Code: F9 it will do short retry POSTs.

2701 vs 2602 also seems to remember some parameters of "train up" IMO, as only on initial settings setup do I have a longer POST, subsequent POSTs regardless of restart from OS/power up from shutdown will be quicker.

I didn't like the fact UEFI 2406/2501 didn't do shutdown & train up when some settings were changed in UEFI, as I do believe this is required for decent POST train up, UEFI 0068 did and was fastest vs 2602/2701.

I quite like 2701, if I knew how, I'd love to mod in the SMU FW of AGESA 1.0.0.2 and I reckon with that boost behaviour it would be a real nice UEFI.
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