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Shamino · ‎07-25-2019

Alessio1989 · ‎07-25-2019

Disabling HPET is an urban legend, it is never used as default OS high precision timer on modern Version of Windows. HPET may be used however by the FCH/PCH/SB and may be used by other devices as high precision timer when those devices cannot use the modern low latency and dynamically clock corrected CPU timer. It may be also used by specific application, especially legacy multimedia streaming application, but nothing else. QPF & QPC system calls (and equivalent linux call) do not use HPET unless you are on a very old and ..., since Windows 8, RDTSCP (or RDTSC + CPUID in the worst case) are always used. Of course the final user can override the bcdedit settings and force HPET (admin rights needed), but also the final user could decide to eat a stone for breakfast. So, HPET does not impact game performance and since it use an independent clock (ie: it's is not related to the CPU clock), it does not alter overclocking capabilities. If you "benchmark" and get very different latency results is because you are using an old software, uncapable to measure process latency under modern version of the OS (eg: DPC Latency Checker.. and it is also well state on the official website!) or because you are using crap or old external tools that interfere with device drivers.

Axaion · ‎07-25-2019

Alessio1989 wrote:
Disabling HPET is an urban legend, it is never used as default OS high precision timer on modern Version of Windows. HPET may be used however by the FCH/PCH/SB and may be used by other devices as high precision timer when those devices cannot use the modern low latency and dynamically clock corrected CPU timer. It may be also used by specific application, especially legacy multimedia streaming application, but nothing else. QPF & QPC system calls (and equivalent linux call) do not use HPET unless you are on a very old and ..., since Windows 8, RDTSCP (or RDTSC + CPUID in the worst case) are always used. Of course the final user can override the bcdedit settings and force HPET (admin rights needed), but also the final user could decide to eat a stone for breakfast. So, HPET does not impact game performance and since it use an independent clock (ie: it's is not related to the CPU clock), it does not alter overclocking capabilities. If you "benchmark" and get very different latency results is because you are using an old software, uncapable to measure process latency under modern version of the OS (eg: DPC Latency Checker.. and it is also well state on the official website!) or because you are using crap or old external tools that interfere with device drivers.

It lowers my latency in LatencyMon though, so it does something positive for my system (or did, on my 2600k that i just upgraded from)

there is not one reason to not allow us to choose ourselves, just leave it on enable(auto)

also, i think your post formatting broke =\

Gothmoth · ‎07-25-2019

bioses are buggy, voltages are a joke.... this is my last asus mainboard. i am fed up with this crap.

i did not buy asus for fancy RGB stuff. i bought it because it had the best fan control and good bios support.
but with all the am4 mainboards they just dropped the ball. they release on crap bios after another.
other mainboard brands can do good fan control too now and there is no reason to spend extra dollars/euros on asus mainboards.
they basically offer nothing anymore for the extra money.

my voltages go through the roof and i see temps at default with my new 3700x i have not seen with an overclocked 1700x.

voltages should be a basic thing. i don´ t want to overclock my 3700x like crazy.... i want it to run fine with default settings.
but even that is too much asked from asus mainboards as it seems.

Ollie_B_2000 · ‎07-26-2019

Gothmoth wrote:
bioses are buggy, voltages are a joke.... this is my last asus mainboard. i am fed up with this crap.

i did not buy asus for fancy RGB stuff. i bought it because it had the best fan control and good bios support.
but with all the am4 mainboards they just dropped the ball. they release on crap bios after another.
other mainboard brands can do good fan control too now and there is no reason to spend extra dollars/euros on asus mainboards.
they basically offer nothing anymore for the extra money.

my voltages go through the roof and i see temps at default with my new 3700x i have not seen with an overclocked 1700x.

voltages should be a basic thing. i don´ t want to overclock my 3700x like crazy.... i want it to run fine with default settings.
but even that is too much asked from asus mainboards as it seems.

I'm pretty with you at this point, I just want to be able to use my system without it turning into a furnace. I'd like to be able to OC and mess around later down the line but for now just having things working at stock and not using 1.46v most of the time would be great

datspike · ‎07-25-2019

Shamino wrote:
combo pi updated to AGESA 1003AB
c6h
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6tvp5q0rs8tt4nx/CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO-ASUS-7302.rar?dl=0

I think I found why memory oc on the C6H is lacking on the 7302 bios.
Memory voltage control is not working
http://imgur.com/a/5VaPlg2

Reset cmos + not enabling docp fixed the problem

ZEEED · ‎07-25-2019

C7H WiFi report
in one word its crap 😄 flashing 2501 in a sec.
Boots up is all over the place
Memory trainign is weird and reboots weird
Performance is worse than 2501 in every benchmark with same speeds.
Even Mouse pointer in bios moves WEIRD !!!!
I'w ran 300% HCI memtest no errors.
Stress tests ect passed.

I see nothing to gain from this bios on MY setup.

xeizo · ‎07-25-2019

ZEEED wrote:
C7H WiFi report
in one word its crap 😄 flashing 2501 in a sec.
Boots up is all over the place
Memory trainign is weird and reboots weird
Performance is worse than 2501 in every benchmark with same speeds.
Even Mouse pointer in bios moves WEIRD !!!!
I'w ran 300% HCI memtest no errors.
Stress tests ect passed.

I see nothing to gain from this bios on MY setup.

So that's why Asus didn't release it earlier, it's crap, but people where shouting for it.

We just have to wait for a serious AGESA from AMD, all engineers probably on vacation so I guess 2501 will have to do until somewhere in September.

R9 7950X - ASUS X670E Crosshair Extreme (bios 0803) - 32GB HyperX Fury Beast @6200c32 - Corsair H150i Pro - ASUS RTX3080 TUF OC V2 - Phanteks P400A - Corsair RM850 - WD SN850

adr82 · ‎07-25-2019

xeizo wrote:
So that's why Asus didn't release it earlier, it's crap, but people where shouting for it.

No they weren't. People were absolutely not clamouring for a buggy BIOS release that only contains regressions and an outdated AGESA version.

Nobody wants a series of random buggy BIOSes released every couple of days except maybe some of the more masochistic types who love testing every little thing. I completely understand AMD are at fault here too, but the fact that Asus somehow managed to break something as simple as mouse support is equal parts hilarious and worrying. I don't know what's worse, that they didn't notice the problem before releasing it or that they did and couldn't be arsed fixing it. Either way it speaks volumes about their professional approach.

Anyway, what people actually want is a stable BIOS with everything working as intended, and while we're waiting some updates on what's going on behind the scenes to produce such a stable version would be nice. Silence punctuated by occasional random betas is not the best approach.

PLTD89 · ‎07-25-2019

C6H here, went from 7201 to this 7301 beta with 3700X + Kraken x62 AIO (set to custom 100% pump/fan speed for testing).

First results: POST issues fixed, RAMv boot voltage bug fixed, more stable on that front.

Performance is down from 7201, with PBO Enabled from Cinebench R20 4871 MT to 4726 with the 7301.

It seems however that PBO OFF gives better results compared to 7201, from PBO OFF Cinenbench R20 4888 MT with 7201 to 4769 with 7301.

Temperatures are still a MAIN issue.

My previous R1700 ran OC'd 3.8ghz at 1.365v at 72c with the same cooling setup, both 7201 and 7301 with 3700X gives temperatures between 80c - 85c while Cinebench / Handbrake render. Redid thermal paste multiple times, now settled with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut in X application on chip.

Prime95 Small FFT's really goes insane, PBO OFF it goes 83c, PBO ON it goes 95c and stays there (Yes, straight thermal limit 95c after 10 seconds). With 1700 it was 72-73c max.

I hope the temperature part has the attention of the BIOS team.

xeizo · ‎07-25-2019

adr82 wrote:
No they weren't

Oh yes, there was talk of crowdfunding Bios writers for Asus on Reddit ....

Now that we know the state these bioses are in, it's obvious it will take time to fix.

R9 7950X - ASUS X670E Crosshair Extreme (bios 0803) - 32GB HyperX Fury Beast @6200c32 - Corsair H150i Pro - ASUS RTX3080 TUF OC V2 - Phanteks P400A - Corsair RM850 - WD SN850

X370 X470 AGESA 1003AB Bioses