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Weird working way with my G.Skill B-DIE 3600MHz DRAM

CuewarsTaner
Level 7
Hi, I am Taner. I am new to the forum and AMD processor. I have been through weird overclocking way with my C6H motherboard and the G.Skill F4-3600C16D-16GTRZ Memory.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 1700X

Motherboard: Crosshair VI Hero

Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB (F4-3600C16D-GTZR)

1. For my system, I cannot run the memory above 2933MHz without BCLK overclocking. Frequency from 2133Mhz to 2933MHz are okay to run BCLK at 100.00MHz.

2. I cannot reach 3200MHz with or without BCLK overclocking, which a sweet spot.

3. Sometimes I am able to boot up my memory at 3402MHz frequency with BCLK overclocking at 116.2MHz. The timing is 16-16-16-16-36 or 16-15-15-15-36. Both timings are okay. But rebooting the PC will cause the failure of getting such a high DRAM frequency again. Thus this way is not a final solution.

4. I figured out a very strange way to get 3600MHz for a short time use without reboot. But also, it will fail to reboot. But personally I strongly suggest you guys to try this way if you have Samsung B-DIE high speed memory! It will prove that this board is able to run high speed memory. ASUS and AMD just need to improve memory capability.

First, remove the second memory module and leave only one memory module on DIMM A2 slot. Then boot your computer and go to BIOS.

Second, change your memory setting to what your memory suggests. For my memory, its XMP is running at 1.35V and timing is 16-16-16-16-36. But improve setting like these: SOC Voltage 1.25V, DRAM Voltage 1.45V, Timing 18-18-18-18-36. Save BIOS setting and reboot.

Third, you will see that your PC is able to run at suggested high memory speed(for my situation, it's 3600MHz). If you fail to do this, try to get higher Memory Timing and get 1.5V very high DRAM Voltage. With all these settings, make sure you can go into Windows and then shutdown the windows inside Windows(not re-start!).

Finally, immediately plug your second memory module to the DIMM B2 slot and then boot your PC. You will figure out that your PC will boot successfully go into Windows working well! But remember this: after reboot, it will fail to boot up with such a high speed DRAM frequency again.

To make it short, it is simply to make sure high DRAM speed runs successfully with only one memory module. And then plug the second memory module back. And magically, high DRAM speed will work!!! What a magical trick!

Even thought it's a unstable way to overclock to get 3600MHz. But at least it proves that Ryzen can get high memory speed. Motherboard makers and AMD just need to improve memory capability! Yes! everything is possible!
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AUStheWOLF wrote:
I let the motherboard make that determination (FACTORY BIOS)... I left all settings on AUTO, except for DRAM voltage and timings. The overclock was completely performed using the the AI Suite 3 and was stable enough to run Cinebench R15 and 3D Mark Time Spy with impressive results, as well as DOOM and Rise of Tomb Raider. I also let AI Suite 3 make the determinations for fan curves, as I have all my chassis fans connected to the CHA_FAN headers on the motherboard. Even if you delete the software after the overclock, the AI Suite 3 allowed monitoring on a firmware level. It will actually cause a crash, then revert to best known settings for stability... Each system will vary slightly, but with the same DRAM, motherboard, and CPU architecture we should only be talking about a few hundred megahertz. I had better benchmarks with 4.02GHz than 4.20GHz according to Cinebench. Felt the same for me. I couldn't get the blazing high 145 BCLKs that other users are getting.


TY for the info. My first OC on this board was through AI Suite 3, but I almost had to change my shorts after I saw the voltages it was applying (upwards of 1.45) lol.

eight-bit wrote:
TY for the info. My first OC on this board was through AI Suite 3, but I almost had to change my shorts after I saw the voltages it was applying (upwards of 1.45) lol.


The thing that is difficult about this platform is it is new, and within different tolerances than what I am use to seeing with Intel builds... I think AMD wants the CPU at 1.375V, and I would have been concerned to raise voltage that high also. I need to double-check if I have some screenshots saved on the hard drive when I get back to my computer.

AUStheWOLF wrote:
I think AMD wants the CPU at 1.375V, and I would have been concerned to raise voltage that high also.


I am pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that AMD recommended not going over 1.35v to avoid degradation. That is what I have been basing my voltage decisions on, and why I am only slightly uncomfortable with my current 1.3625V

eight-bit wrote:
I am pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that AMD recommended not going over 1.35v to avoid degradation. That is what I have been basing my voltage decisions on, and why I am only slightly uncomfortable with my current 1.3625V


Ok, verified what I previously stated with some old screenshots, the ASUS OC was somewhere around 1.33V. If you are having problems with system stability, I would recommend the ASUS overclock, it is easy to do and ran very well and within normal mfg tolerances. There is a setting above showing CPU ratio stability, set that to "Video Encoding" and run the test for one hour.

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Not having any problems with stability. Just that overclocking using the Asus software yielded voltages well outside of my comfort range. Have been able since then to achieve much higher clock speeds at much lower voltages by doing it incrementally in bios.

My 1800X performs a little less than what I had expected it to. But for a marginal difference between my expected OC and my real life OC, I'm happy with it.

CuewarsTaner
Level 7
OKAY, guys. I figured out my Memory Modules are different when they are from a memory kit. This is G.Skill's fault. I have already created a RMA case and I am going to send it back to G.Skill for replacement.