ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO(WI-FI) BIOS 2103 High Instability/Crashes/

[tommy7600]

Hi,
I have tried out 2103 last night (from 1302). I started noticing occasional reboot-crash. After ruling out every device and driver I found the bios update to be the culprit.

The system was so unstable it crashed even in bios with no peripherals plugged in. I have reverted BIOS to 1302 by flashback port/button (lifesaver) and the system is stable again with no issues.

No OC or modifications in bios besides these items:

-DOCP to default 3200 profile (4 x 16 GB Trident Z (NO RGB))
-CPU fan curve to silent and PWM
-Other fans only to PWM, standard

Specs:

Crosshair VIII Wifi
3900x
64gb TridentZ (4x16) - G.Skill Trident Z, DDR4, 32 GB,3200MHz, CL14 (F4-3200C14D-32GTZ)
Samsung SSD NMVE 512 GB 970 PRO M.2 (main)
Samsung SSD NMVE 1 TB 970 EVO M.2 (secondary)
MSI RTX 2080
be quiet! Dark Power Pro P11 1200W

UPDATE 1:

Workaround - set DRAM voltage manually to 1.36V that allows MB to keep stable 1.352V. Below 1.35V I have crashes and reboots. I also set DRAM current limit to 110%/120% instead of 100%.

Tested (standard settings, only DOCP enabled or not):

1. 64gb TridentZ (4x16) - G.Skill Trident Z, DDR4, 32 GB,3200MHz, CL14 (F4-3200C14D-32GTZ)

a) 1302 with DOCP - works
b) 1302 without DOCP - works
c) 2103/2204 with DOCP - doesn't work, random crash/reboot
d) 2103/2204 without DOCP - doesn't work, random crash/reboot
e) 2103/2204 with VDRAM set to 1.36V and current limit upped to 110% with DOCP - works

2. 32gb TridentZ (2x16) - G.Skill Trident Z, DDR4, 32 GB,3200MHz, CL14 (F4-3200C14D-32GTZ)

a) 1302 with DOCP - works
b) 1302 without DOCP - works
c) 2103/2204 with DOCP - doesn't work, random crash/reboot
d) 2103/2204 without DOCP - doesn't work, random crash/reboot
e) 2103/2204 with VDRAM set to 1.36V and current limit upped to 110% with DOCP - works

Also tested on mine friend's MSI MPG-X570-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-WIFI with 7B93v17 BIOS (AMD AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.0.0.2):
a) with DOCP - works (32 GB and 64 GB)
b) without DOCP - works (32 and 64 GB)

UPDATE 2:

The issue still exists on 2204.

[RedSector73]

It not even like this only effects a single product line - CH8.

This is CH6 with latest BIOS running a 3700x with 2x8 G.Skill Neo F4-3600C16-8GTZNC. Hynix RAM D-die. Can't run DOCP causes locks up.
I manually enter all data, in particular the sub timings and boom, it works.

I wonder why it cant read DOCP and than do the subtimings itself without lockup ?

No wait, I no longer care what the excuse is. The problem is I own enough ASUS products to actually check them and you are found wanting ASUS.

[slice313]

Bios version 2204 with AGESA 1.0.8.0 will be dropping soon (I hope this week)

[tommy7600]

slice313 wrote:
Bios version 2204 with AGESA 1.0.8.0 will be dropping soon (I hope this week)

From where you have this news?

[slice313]

tommy7600 wrote:
From where you have this news?

Asus already updated low and mid tier MOBOS, we are next. It is imminent. I also I heard from Reous at hardwareluxx.de

[criznittle]

slice313 wrote:
Bios version 2204 with AGESA 1.0.8.0 will be dropping soon (I hope this week)

if this version isn't rock solid, i'll have lost faith in Asus

[Black-Desk]

Hi together,

I still use bios version 1201 and it works so far. Should I take the risk to update the bios to a newer version?

[tommy7600]

Black-Desk wrote:
Hi together,

I still use bios version 1201 and it works so far. Should I take the risk to update the bios to a newer version?

If you don need to update the BIOS. Don't do that. Keep what works for you and it's stable.

[RedSector73]

New Bios Dropped
Version 2204 2020/08/14 19.24 MBytes
ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) BIOS 2204
-Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.0.8.0
-Improve system performance.
-Improve system stability
-Improve M.2 storage compatibility

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero-WI-FI/HelpDesk_BIOS/


It looks good.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/31756169
CB R20: 7272
CB R15: 3170
Aidia64 Memory Stats: https://imgur.com/BtveP2G
Memory details: https://imgur.com/9Q9uZkb running@1.38v DRAM
Skydiver Results: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/49529460
Timespy Results: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/49529662
Firestrike Results: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/49529758

Still cant boot DOCP 3800 but at least I can set it up DDR3600.

[Black-Desk]

I updated from 1201 to 2204 but my memory still won't work @ 3600 MHz even though it's on the QVL List ( Gskill Trident z neo F4-3600C16Q-64GTZN). And I already ran 2 times 12h of memtest86 without errors ...
I think I stay at 3466 CL 14-15-14-14-34. But the post procedure seems to be faster.

[Baio73]

No update for C8 Formula??
Asus yet keeps disappointing me...