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ROG Crosshair VIII Bios 3601 AGESA 1.2.0.3 Patch

einsindrei
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RedSector73 wrote:
I was simply sharing what I know about 3601, clearly you have trouble reading that and going hmm does not apply without becoming hostile.

DOCP reads voltage required from the RAM and the primary timings, thats all. You can manually set them yourself if you know what your doing hardly an issue really unless of course you dont have these skills to use a BIOS ?

SOC voltage given is still well within normal operating ranges, not even considered raised voltage for SOC, your proving you dont know much but that was kinda a given from your posts.

I own five ryzen systems, that all work flawlessly .... and there is list to add you to here, which has been done. enjoy.


I'm confused by your post. If you look above, you responded to my post initially telling me that I could not load a profile from a previous BIOS, when I never even mentioned doing such a thing.

Regardless....

In my case 3601 is simply not working and it looks like it is definitely related to RAM voltage settings. Putting in a manual voltage does not appear to resolve the issue and suggests that something is happening with the way values are interpreted within the BIOS code for some people.

From the look of this forum plus a few other places, 50% of us have no issues, and 50% do.

I don't have a problem with playing with SOC voltages, but it is not the SOC voltages causing the issue here - its definitely the DRAM related settings that are the root cause of the issues in my case.

I've had outstanding success with 3601. CPU runs 5-10C cooler than previously. I'm able to reach a stable 4.5Ghz all-core OC (@1.289VCore) on my 5950X which I wasn't able to before. And I can run my Micron E-die 3600 (4 DIMMS) at 3800 and 1900MHz FCLK 12 hour memtest stable without a single error. Been running this way for 2 weeks now. No complaints on 3601 for me.

sc32valve wrote:
I've had outstanding success with 3601. CPU runs 5-10C cooler than previously. I'm able to reach a stable 4.5Ghz all-core OC (@1.289VCore) on my 5950X which I wasn't able to before. And I can run my Micron E-die 3600 (4 DIMMS) at 3800 and 1900MHz FCLK 12 hour memtest stable without a single error. Been running this way for 2 weeks now. No complaints on 3601 for me.


What kind of timings are you running on the E-die? I'm running the same chips at 3800/1900 but haven't had much luck with tighter timings.

frellingfahrbot wrote:
What kind of timings are you running on the E-die? I'm running the same chips at 3800/1900 but haven't had much luck with tighter timings.


Here you go. Let me know if you're successful.


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sc32valve wrote:
I've had outstanding success with 3601. CPU runs 5-10C cooler than previously. I'm able to reach a stable 4.5Ghz all-core OC (@1.289VCore) on my 5950X which I wasn't able to before. And I can run my Micron E-die 3600 (4 DIMMS) at 3800 and 1900MHz FCLK 12 hour memtest stable without a single error. Been running this way for 2 weeks now. No complaints on 3601 for me.


You mean 5-10C less with the same BIOS settings?
Did you used .CMO files from older BIOS or set all again?

I've used .CMO from last beta BIOS and my temps have grown 4-5C instead of lowering.

Baio
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Baio73 wrote:
You mean 5-10C less with the same BIOS settings?
Did you used .CMO files from older BIOS or set all again?

I've used .CMO from last beta BIOS and my temps have grown 4-5C instead of lowering.

Baio


5-10C less with same BIOS settings set all again.

Escorpiom
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I've been testing 3601 those days and overall it's a keeper.
My four sticks dual rank GSkill F4-3200C16Q-GVK (64GB) still cannot run at their advertised speeds, 3200Mhz.
But at 3000Mhz they are now finally stable, before I had cold boot issues but with 3601 they disappeared.

I did have to redo the whole timings and voltage settings, and by doing so I noticed something weird.
My system boots with vsoc at 1.08 volts but not stable. When going higher, the system won't boot at all UNTIL I reach 1.15 vsoc, then it starts again to boot.
So there is a "vsoc hole".
I finally found stability around 1.17 volt, with some vdroop because zen timings report it at 1.1625 volt.

Strange behavior that didn't occur before, got this board since december 2019.

Cheers.

3601 works okay for me, I guess... I still haven't been able to alleviate my USB connectivity issues with my Dark Hero though. Every now and then my CPU temp will spike and it will coincide with the loss of connection for my Stream Deck XL and a few other components.

I am running a RTX 3090 and dual M.2 NVME SSDs all at PCIe 4.0... Maybe it can't handle all the gen 4?
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Escorpiom wrote:
I've been testing 3601 those days and overall it's a keeper.
My four sticks dual rank GSkill F4-3200C16Q-GVK (64GB) still cannot run at their advertised speeds, 3200Mhz.
But at 3000Mhz they are now finally stable, before I had cold boot issues but with 3601 they disappeared.


Check if you have both CPU ATX connections on the motherboard (top left) connected recently read few reports that connection of both resolved RAM DOCP cold boot issue. Not sure it is accurate but cant hurt trying if you have only one connected and the PSU can connect both.

RedSector73 wrote:
Check if you have both CPU ATX connections on the motherboard (top left) connected recently read few reports that connection of both resolved RAM DOCP issue. Not sure it is accurate but cant hurt trying if you have only one connected.


Yep, saw that comment yesterday in the B550 thread.
Instantly looked at my board, and yes - both are connected.
The PSU is however a bit dated, XFX-750-BES Seasonic MD12 platform 750W.
Wouldn't want to change it, the PSU has been rock solid for years.

I also briefly looked at other boards, for example Aorus Master, my mem kit (four sticks) is on their QVL list while Asus doesn't list four sticks on it's QVL, only two.
Both boards use daisychain topology.

Cheers.