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My experience with C7H UEFI 2406 & R5 3600

gupsterg
Level 13
Last update: 10/07/19 16:00 UK BST

I have a C7H given to me by ASUS at launch. It has had 3x 2700X used on it and lost count how many UEFI flashes I have done testing things. It is also the early board which has bugged chipset voltage readout in SW monitoring, ~+50mV from actual. So in UEFI screenie/HWINFO you will see ~1.1V when actually it is 1.05V.

From having read others posts I thought I would have a mare with swap over to R5 3600, to my delight my experience was to the contrary of what I had read :cool: .

As the current 2700X had been in the rig since Jan 19, I was expecting it to come out of the socket with the water block :eek: , but no it did not pull the CPU :cool: . I had ran the system up prior to warm her up 🙂 .

Any how quick painless remove and swap out to R5 3600. I did not even reflash UEFI, did clear CMOS from rear IO and BOOM! first time she booted! :cool: .

The Hero everyone wants is the C7H! :cool:

This album link has some screenies from UEFI 2406, continuing now with other bits of testing, etc 🙂

OS was freshly installed yesterday when on 2700X, I just had a screen doing some updates once booted on R5 3600. Seems AOK so far and will update benches, etc here ASAP 🙂 .

HW in use:-

- R5 3600 Batch Code: BF 1922 SUT
- C7HWIFI
- F4-3200C14D-GVK
- Sapphire HD 5850 Toxic 1GB
- Intel 660P 1TB
- Cooler Master V650

Cooling used:-

- EK Supremacy EVO (Acetal+Copper)
- Magicool 360 G2 Slim radiator
- 3x Arctic Cooling P12 PWM
- 1x Arctic Cooling F12 PWM
- EK DDC 3.2 PWM
- Coolant is distilled water with ~20% mix of Mayhems XT-1 clear concentrate
- Arctic Silver 5 spread by hand using plastic strip from a plastic card (OFC 😄 )

All fans are using a 4 in 1 cable, connected to CHA_FAN2 and powered by molex. The water pump is powered by molex and gains PWM from H_AMP header. All fans/pump run a UEFI based profile, based on water temperature, T_Sensor1 is used.

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Here HWINFO shows some idle stats, etc, room ambient temp is ~24C.

Windows 10 Pro x64 1903 with AMD Chipset driver 1.07.07, power plan is Ryzen one which has UEFI CPP2 link.

So far benches in this album are at base settings stated in ZIP above, room ambient ~24C.

Done an image of system to SATA SSD over USB adapter, now to scratch the OC itch of Matisse! 😉 .

Overall so far experienced smooth POSTs on mobo (done a few) and usage in OS for tests/uploading images/posting here, etc all nice. PWM on headers is behaving, so not having any issues with the SIO (ITE IT8655E), so fans/pump reacting as they should. OS has only had whatever updates it wanted via web, only driver so far installed is AMD Chipset from AMD site. Aspects of Wifi, NVMe, etc all working as they should.

Setting up 3533MHz using The Stilt 3466MHz timings has not been an issue so far. I have done some warm POSTs (ie restart from OS) and then some POSTs from shutdown, but with board having standby power (ie PSU wall plug still had power).

As Elmor had on OCN highlighted an issue on current UEFI I set up voltages first, saved settings, set timings and saved settings. When FCLK (ie fabric clk) was left [Auto], even with 3533MHz MEMCLK it did not maintain 1:1 ratio until I manually set it. FCLK not being 1:1 can have severe affect on RAM performance depending upon how far out it is from 1:1. This 3533MHz without 1:1 FCLK, link, then here is with 1:1, link. Below ZIP has settings used txt.

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Just like on 1xxx/2xxx gear down mode must be disabled for odd CAS not to be rounded to nearest even. Just like previous gen again tRDWR on [Auto] does train to differing values (link), I left it on [Auto] as The Stilt's preset do this.

I set SOC manually to match what I saw at stock via with DMM, so I could see what RAM MHz gains I could get at stock SOC, link. CLDO_VDDG is explained here by The Stilt link. I should have perhaps used 0.950, but set it ~40mV less than SOC, CLDO_VDDG does accept 1mV steps, at complete UEFI defaults RM shows 0.950V, link.

Today I have ended on 3600MHz, FCLK & MEMCLK 1:1, using The Stilt's 3466MHz timings, 1T, Gear Down Mode: [Disabled], AIDA64 bench result link. Latency is ~7ns behind 2700X for same RAM MHz & timings, strangely.

Stability testing album link, 3533MHz passed 1100% even though screenie shows 750%, same settings failed with 3600MHz, even though I encountered no POST issues, etc. Bumping VDIMM to 1.355V seems to have solved it as gained 1200% PASS. Just as a comparative I needed 1.385V VDIMM on same RAM kit & mobo, but using 2700X. This IMO shows clearly RAM & MOBO was not what held back 1xxx/2xxx, but IMC quality. Room ambient was ~26C for the tests stated.

Settings for 3600MHz using The Stilt 3466MHz timings in below ZIP.

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This has now been tested for 2400% in RAM Test and then on same POST I did 1200%, link 1, link 2.

3666MHz I have gained pass in RAM Test ~1100% so far, this was by increasing SOC/CLDO_VDDG/VDIMM and CAD Bus needed to be 30 A A A. Link 1 , Link 2, RM is showing some things incorrectly, but a lot is correct and currently only util showing as much as it does on Matisse.

So using The Stilt 3466MHz timings, Gear Down Mode: Disabled, 1T, below is so far what has passed stability testing in RT reasonably well.

3533MHz SOC: 1.025V CLDO_VDDG: 0.985V VDIMM: 1.35V
3600MHz SOC: 1.025V CLDO_VDDG: 0.985V VDIMM: 1.355V
3666MHz SOC: 1.043V CLDO_VDDG: 1.003V VDIMM: 1.365V CAD Bus: 30 A A A

UEFI 2406 does had PMU Training menu (aka IMC), link, further info ref Elmor's post here.

*** more to come soon 😉 , so stay tuned peeps 😄 ***
Intel Defector :eek: AMD Rebel


R9 5900X - Custom WC - ASUS Crosshair VII Hero WiFi - Ballistix Sport LT 2x16GB 3800MHz C16 - RX 6800 XT - WD SN770 2TB - 2x 870 EVO 4TB


24/7 OC: i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz CPU@1.255v 4.4GHz Cache@1.10v - Archon SB-E X2 - Asus Maximus VII Ranger
Sapphire Fury X (1145/545 ~17.7K GS 3DM FS)

:eek: CPU Validation 5.198GHz@1.314v with 4.4GHz cache + RAM 2400MHz@1T :eek:
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gupsterg
Level 13
In this album of screenies all I change is SOC voltage, see the ASUS TurboV Core app for value, using too low a SOC results in loss of performance for me. The UEFI in use was a modified 0068 with later CPU microcode, see AIDA64 window for version.

This occurrence has also been observed on other UEFIs. For example when I was on 2x8GB @ 3800MHz I could lower SOC from 1.068 to 1.037V and not lose stability, but lost performance.
Intel Defector :eek: AMD Rebel


R9 5900X - Custom WC - ASUS Crosshair VII Hero WiFi - Ballistix Sport LT 2x16GB 3800MHz C16 - RX 6800 XT - WD SN770 2TB - 2x 870 EVO 4TB


24/7 OC: i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz CPU@1.255v 4.4GHz Cache@1.10v - Archon SB-E X2 - Asus Maximus VII Ranger
Sapphire Fury X (1145/545 ~17.7K GS 3DM FS)

:eek: CPU Validation 5.198GHz@1.314v with 4.4GHz cache + RAM 2400MHz@1T :eek:
Da Music video

gupsterg
Level 13
UEFI 2703 & 0002 with SMU FW 46.34.00 for C7H & C7HWIFI in this post.
Intel Defector :eek: AMD Rebel


R9 5900X - Custom WC - ASUS Crosshair VII Hero WiFi - Ballistix Sport LT 2x16GB 3800MHz C16 - RX 6800 XT - WD SN770 2TB - 2x 870 EVO 4TB


24/7 OC: i5 4690K @ 4.9GHz CPU@1.255v 4.4GHz Cache@1.10v - Archon SB-E X2 - Asus Maximus VII Ranger
Sapphire Fury X (1145/545 ~17.7K GS 3DM FS)

:eek: CPU Validation 5.198GHz@1.314v with 4.4GHz cache + RAM 2400MHz@1T :eek:
Da Music video