Latest C7H BIOS

[Shamino]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/k2beo11w1kw7kus/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VII-HERO-WIFI-ASUS-0068.rar?dl=0

[Dave1717]

xeizo wrote:
Must have been about the same time I was rocking Abit NF7-S, plenty of modded bioses for that board. Most popular at the time was DFI LanParty from what I recall. My last AMD board was MSI K8N Platinum with the superhot Nforce 4 southbridge, which had to be modded with passive cooling.

From then on, Intel. But all Asus boards: P5Q DeLuxe, P8Z68 DeLuxe/Gen 3, Z87-A, Maximus VII Hero, all solid boards that's why I'm still on Asus 🙂

Currently I have the Crosshair VII and the Prime X470-Pro. Just cancelled my order for the 3900X, as it's heavily delayed, and I can't stand not playing with these new cpus. Decided I can manage with "only" 8 cores for the time being, there is a 16 core coming later 😉

Now waiting for the 3700X, which should be here on Wednesday. The 3700X will go with the Crosshair VII for gaming, my 2700X will be put in the Prime Pro for duties as a Linux server/workstation.

WOW, you just put a flood of old info back into the forefront of my brain. I had all the, the ABIT, DFI LP and even had the MSI and an EVGA Nforce chipset.
Fun times for sure.
I still have a P5Q-D sitting on the shelf looking back at me and still works:)

[HeavyK]

Jackalito wrote:
How did you flash it? Did you use USB BIOS Flashback?

Flashed from an USB drive from the BIOS tool. Worked just like when I flash to a new BIOS.
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[gupsterg]

UEFI 2501

HW in use:-

- R5 3600 Batch Code: BF 1922 SUT
- C7HWIFI
- F4-3200C14D-GVK
- Sapphire HD 5850 Toxic 1GB
- Intel 660P 1TB
- Cooler Master V650
- Logitech K400

Cooling used:-

- EK Supremacy EVO (Acetal+Copper)
- Magicool 360 G2 Slim radiator
- 3x Arctic Cooling P12 PWM
- 1x Arctic Cooling F12 PWM
- EK DDC 3.2 PWM

All fans are using a 4 in 1 cable, connected to CHA_FAN2 and powered by molex. The water pump is powered by molex and gains PWM from H_AMP header. All fans/pump run a UEFI based profile, based on water temperature, T_Sensor1 is used.

SW in use:-

- W10 Pro x64 1903 fully updated
- AMD Chipset driver v1.07.07
- No other drivers, etc used, other SW versions as per screenies

Positives of UEFI 2501

- Mouse works in UEFI.

Negatives of UEFI 2501

- No Precision Boost Overdrive menu on Extreme tweaker.
- No Performance Enhancer menu on Extreme tweaker.
- No Memory Presets in DRAM Timing Control menu on Extreme tweaker.
- DRAM Q-LED does not function on Matisse.

Data from using UEFI 2501

UEFI 2501 is like 2406 for training, only certain settings changes result in 2 posts, where as UEFI 0068 seemed to do it for many.

UEFI 2501 is also like 2406 for SOC voltage. If you change SOC on Extreme Tweaker page, at POST it will shoot to ~1.1V, then what you set. Where as if you use the setting within AMD menu of UEFI you get what you set through POST process.

My go to profile is PBO+150MHz Scalar: 6x, then 3600MHz C15 1T using The Stilt's 3466MHz timings, this has worked on UEFI 2406, 0068, 2501 without effort and voltages needed are nice and default like.

So today was testing tailored towards length, here is screen capture video showing this, Kahru RAM Test ~17000%. The CPU does not go to idle near end of video as screen capture SW is running. This profile has also been rerun, so far ~4600%.

The keypoint was changing ProcODT from default of 60 to 40, the voltages are only +6mV on SOC over default, +6mV on VDDG over default, +5mV on VDIMM. UEFI 2406 & 2501 on my setup default to ProcODT 60, but UEFI 0068 is 40.

[amadeus1171]

gupsterg wrote:
UEFI 2501

HW in use:-

- R5 3600 Batch Code: BF 1922 SUT
- C7HWIFI
- F4-3200C14D-GVK
- Sapphire HD 5850 Toxic 1GB
- Intel 660P 1TB
- Cooler Master V650
- Logitech K400

Cooling used:-

- EK Supremacy EVO (Acetal+Copper)
- Magicool 360 G2 Slim radiator
- 3x Arctic Cooling P12 PWM
- 1x Arctic Cooling F12 PWM
- EK DDC 3.2 PWM

All fans are using a 4 in 1 cable, connected to CHA_FAN2 and powered by molex. The water pump is powered by molex and gains PWM from H_AMP header. All fans/pump run a UEFI based profile, based on water temperature, T_Sensor1 is used.

SW in use:-

- W10 Pro x64 1903 fully updated
- AMD Chipset driver v1.07.07
- No other drivers, etc used, other SW versions as per screenies

Positives of UEFI 2501

- Mouse works in UEFI.

Negatives of UEFI 2501

- No Precision Boost Overdrive menu on Extreme tweaker.
- No Performance Enhancer menu on Extreme tweaker.
- No Memory Presets in DRAM Timing Control menu on Extreme tweaker.
- DRAM Q-LED does not function on Matisse.

Data from using UEFI 2501

UEFI 2501 is like 2406 for training, only certain settings changes result in 2 posts, where as UEFI 0068 seemed to do it for many.

UEFI 2501 is also like 2406 for SOC voltage. If you change SOC on Extreme Tweaker page, at POST it will shoot to ~1.1V, then what you set. Where as if you use the setting within AMD menu of UEFI you get what you set through POST process.

My go to profile is PBO+150MHz Scalar: 6x, then 3600MHz C15 1T using The Stilt's 3466MHz timings, this has worked on UEFI 2406, 0068, 2501 without effort and voltages needed are nice and default like.

So today was testing tailored towards length, here is screen capture video showing this, Kahru RAM Test ~17000%. The CPU does not go to idle near end of video as screen capture SW is running. This profile has also been rerun, so far ~4600%.

The keypoint was changing ProcODT from default of 60 to 40, the voltages are only +6mV on SOC over default, +6mV on VDDG over default, +5mV on VDIMM. UEFI 2406 & 2501 on my setup default to ProcODT 60, but UEFI 0068 is 40.

At least the mouse came back, right? 😄

[bigtop1967]

gupsterg wrote:

My go to profile is PBO+150MHz Scalar: 6x, then 3600MHz C15 1T using The Stilt's 3466MHz timings, this has worked on UEFI 2406, 0068, 2501 without effort and voltages needed are nice and default like.

So today was testing tailored towards length, here is screen capture video showing this, Kahru RAM Test ~17000%. The CPU does not go to idle near end of video as screen capture SW is running. This profile has also been rerun, so far ~4600%.

The keypoint was changing ProcODT from default of 60 to 40, the voltages are only +6mV on SOC over default, +6mV on VDDG over default, +5mV on VDIMM. UEFI 2406 & 2501 on my setup default to ProcODT 60, but UEFI 0068 is 40.

I'm just finding I can reduce ProcODT way lower than I could previously - just testing 32ohms. I couldn't go over 60 or below 53 previously.

But I thought higher ODT was better for higher frequencies?

[gupsterg]

amadeus1171 wrote:
At least the mouse came back, right? 😄

Yes, an advancement 😛 ...

bigtop1967 wrote:
I'm just finding I can reduce ProcODT way lower than I could previously - just testing 32ohms. I couldn't go over 60 or below 53 previously.

But I thought higher ODT was better for higher frequencies?

Yes I have seen the same, see this post on OCN with data.

Yes increased ProcODT was supposed to aid gaining higher frequencies.

All in all the way Matisse is, it seems to fall over less for say POST when meddling with RAM. Gotta be training routines have improved as I've seen one or maybe two people, that may be in the know, stating IMC may have not changed between 2xxx and 3xxx.

[Ken429]

Just updated to BIOS 2501 from 2203 and the default SOC voltage shows as ~1.12V according to HWIinfo64 when using 3200-14 memory. This seems a little high since even OC'd to 3333 1.0V is recommended by the memory OC'ing program. Am I missing something. Will 1.12V cause a long term problem with the SOC controller?

[amadeus1171]

Ken429 wrote:
Just updated to BIOS 2501 from 2203 and the default SOC voltage shows as ~1.12V according to HWIinfo64 when using 3200-14 memory. This seems a little high since even OC'd to 3333 1.0V is recommended by the memory OC'ing program. Am I missing something. Will 1.12V cause a long term problem with the SOC controller?

From what I've read, you shouldn't gover 1.2V for the SoC voltage. But do your own research to confirm before making any changes.

[IIINikolaiIII]

Ken429 wrote:
Just updated to BIOS 2501 from 2203 and the default SOC voltage shows as ~1.12V according to HWIinfo64 when using 3200-14 memory. This seems a little high since even OC'd to 3333 1.0V is recommended by the memory OC'ing program. Am I missing something. Will 1.12V cause a long term problem with the SOC controller?

From what i've read\heard 1st gen ryzen 1.2v is recommended max and for 2nd gen 1.1v.
I personally have it at 1.025v

[Ken429]

Thanks for the information. I set the SOC voltage to Manual @ 1.0V and the SOC LLC to Level 2. HwInfo64 says 2700X: Enhanced SOC voltage @ .994V and ASUS WMI SOC voltage @ .981V. This is close to what the system had been running at for many months with the memory OC'd to 3333 prior to jumping from BIOS version 2203 to 2501. Does the new BIOS know "something" that it Defaults to the higher SOC voltage? Oh well, the system seems happy running all the usual stuff including Handbrake for an over an hour converting a blu-ray disc to an MP4 file.