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Is AMD really ready for prime time?? I'm not so sure based on what I see

mdzcpa
Level 12
Hey guys,

I've been a member here for about forever. I'm a very experienced system builder that used to competitively overclock years back. The last few years I've dialed way back and now build high end mainstream PCs for work and gaming. I absolutely require stability. My current build is a 9900k @ 5.1Ghz on a Maximus Hero XI with all top of the line goodies that were available 22 months ago.

Looking for a new build. I was thinking of going AMD this time with Zen 3 just looking too awesome to pass up. I've been hankering over a 5950X and Hero Dark when it comes out. I haven't been AMD since the Intel Core 2 came out a decade ago. I was anxious to go AMD this time. But now I see the forums chock full of problems. How is it that a CPU/Mobo combo has a problem running 4 sticks of RAM out of the box? Or that RAM cannot run at rated speeds (and I mean mainstream speeds like 3200, 3600, 3800) Intel has their security issues and all...but seriously...the AMD stability issues make AMD look half baked again.

Are all these problems perpetual AMD "teething" issues? Is it possible to build a top of the line new AMD system with 32 or 64GB or RAM at decently rated RAM speeds with stability? Or will I be faced with experimenting with RAM kits and UEFI settings until the cows come home. All I want is a system with top end parts that runs fast and stable with a light overclock. Should I stick with Intel?? Or am I getting the wrong impression about the Ryzen chips and AMD platfom?
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OP I don't think you have anything to worry about, go Samsung B-die x 4 RAM on QVL (G.skill NEO CL14 3800 for example) and you will be fine with 4xRAM. The issues you see need to be wieghted against what don't see and Ryzen has been selling gangbusters. Mine system runs fine and been building Ryzen systems since 1800x and each ZEN thereafter. Doing a 5900x soon and have buddy running x570 Hero wifi with the 5950x & 4xRAM no problems.

RedSector73 wrote:
OP I don't think you have anything to worry about, go Samsung B-die x 4 RAM on QVL (G.skill NEO CL14 3800 for example) and you will be fine with 4xRAM. The issues you see need to be wieghted against what don't see and Ryzen has been selling gangbusters. Mine system runs fine and been building Ryzen systems since 1800x and each ZEN thereafter. Doing a 5900x soon and have buddy running x570 Hero wifi with the 5950x & 4xRAM no problems.



I appreciate the encouragement and specific tips. I will be reading here in the AMD f470/570 forum a lot in the coming weeks as I wait for the CPU/Mobo/GPU to come into stock for a January build timeline. Hopefully I can pick up the best ideas top put together a blazing, rock solid system.

One last one, Dark Hero - because of this (dynamic oc switcher) which the older HERO wifi, like mine, does not have.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?121517-Crosshair-hero-viii-dynamic-oc-switcher

Silent_Scone
Super Moderator
First-generation was certainly not without its problems, however, Zen has matured to a point where a seasoned enthusiast should have no trouble navigating any platform-related quirks quickly if any are to be found at all. It's not a valid reason to choose Intel over X570.
9800X3D / 6400 CAS32 / ROG X870 Crosshair / TUF RTX 4090

Silent Scone@ROG wrote:
First-generation was certainly not without its problems, however, Zen has matured to a point where a seasoned enthusiast should have no trouble navigating any platform-related quirks quickly if any are to be found at all. It's not a valid reason to choose Intel over X570.


Appreciate the reply SS. What's with the rash of posts about whea errors and spontaneous reboots? Are these just tuning issues with the new Zen3 chips? Did I jump into the AMD forum at a transition point? These threads didn't seem OC related as much as just good old fashion memory stability issues. I pick my hardware as carefully as Jesus chose his disciples, so for me that means sticking to the QVL and choosing quality parts wisely. I also do not update my BIOS unless something is not working, or more performance or functionality is clearly offered. These rules keep my rigs running fast and stable.

If the same approach works on the latest AMD kit, I am all for it. Because that's what I need/want. It's the current posts by experience enthusiasts that has me spooked. Maybe I jumped in at a point that doesn't properly reflect the current state of affairs.