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Crosshair VI Hero: UEFI build update thread

Raja
Level 13
Directly from Elmor:

Beta BIOS 3008 for C6H/C6HWIFI/C6E:

AGESA 1.0.7.1, temperature offset fixed after S3 resume, GPU Post function fixed, 0d with some GPUs fixed

http://www.mediafire.com/file/f95motjmh211e7h/CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO-ASUS-3008.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ntn6i3jiub610ai/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO-WIFI-AC-ASUS-3008.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/file/yj22ld2rmmedp01/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-EXTREME-ASUS-3008.zip





C6H Test BIOS 0020 with AGESA 1007 (405200c4e299c1eed9a0044edec9aba51f37cee1d70caabe40b9485b0604521a)

In order to get back to an older version after flashing, you have to use USB BIOS Flashback.

Let me know how it works for you, especially regarding cold boot issues. Any confirmed bugs in the bug report form please




Beta BIOS 1501

* Workaround for some CPUs stuck at 22x ratio if using override voltage
* Fixes PCIEX4 bandwidth setting getting lost after power is removed
* Same DRAM boot behavior as 1403 (no cold boot fix)
* Same DRAM profiles as in 9920
* Still has the Vcore value issue when booting with Offset Mode and switching to Manual Mode

Crosshair VI Hero 1501 SHA256 EDE223DC6897B7199C93D9985E28B7A2CD1B8A8DB2DCBF3D3555A521DB4F045D
Crosshair VI Hero Wifi AC 1501 SHA256 0D9F51F43AA3A56A4AC984B11A52F58451B76F8A7CCB9A04E1C3194231C9D4DA






UEFI build 9920 for the C6H:

* Improved DRAM cold boot, results in slightly longer POST time
* Fix for CPU Ratio stuck at 22x on some CPUs when using Vcore override/offset
* SenseMi Skew is now Disabled by default. If you want to return to previous behavior set SenseMi Skew = Enabled and Offset = 272.
* Added DRAM profiles for Samsung B-based DIMMs with tuned subtimings, including The Stilt's settings



C6H beta UEFI 1403

* Fixed W_PUMP and AIO_PUMP speeds during POST
* Fixed Fan tuning sometimes failing
* Fixed a few issues with AMD USB3.1 ports
* Some tuning on DRAM settings, let us know how they work for you. tRDRD_Sc is still at 5 above 3500 MHz as it helps with stability. For performance you want to force this to 1. We'll consider changing this in future releases as the performance impact can be quite noticeable in certain applications.

An update on DRAM Boot Voltage, currently it should be 1.35V by default if the DRAM Voltage is changed. So if you're setting DRAM Voltage to above 1.35V, you might want to sync this setting. Additionally there might be scenarios where you will have better luck by syncing DRAM Boot Voltage to DRAM Voltage even at lower values.




AGESA 1006 RC4 official UEFI 1401

Just tested quickly 3600 memory and cold booting, seems good but you guys are going to have to help me test this before we have a judgement. Seems CPU temp reading from SIO now has -20*C offset for XFR enabled CPUs.





UEFI build 1107





Older test builds:


Test BIOS 0079

Test BIOS with new AGESA 1004a, with a couple of bugfixes. Up to 5% performance increases in specific applications. Also has P-state overclocking working with BCLK increase. If you want to keep C-states, make sure to set Advanced\AMD CBS\Zen Common Options\Global C-state Control = Enabled. There are two new settings under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\ you might want to take a look at, Fail_CNT and ProcODT. Fail_CNT decides how many times to retry when DRAM training fails (F9 -> 0d), default is now 1. ProcODT can help improve your DRAM overclocking. There's a setting available also on previous BIOSes under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DRAM Memory Mapping named BankGroupSwap. If you have 2x Single-Rank modules you can try setting this to Disabled and you might see some performance boost in certain applications.

Test BIOS 0081

Same as 0079 but has ProcODT default = 53.3 ohm

Test BIOS 0082

Same as 0081 but with a DRAM compability patch for the below part numbers

CMK16GX4M4A2133C13
AHU08GGB13CGT7G
PV416G240C5QK
F4-2400C15Q-32GRR
TCD44G2400C14BK
F4-2666C16Q2-64GRB
AVD4UZ126661504G
BLT8G4D26AFTA.16FAD
IMA41GU6MFR8N-C F0
MD16GK4D4266615AXR
HX430C15PB2K4/16
HX430C15PBK4/32
AX4U3333W4G16-QGZ
GAM4DBLBM2133D15IE041C
TC48G24S817
SP004GBLFU213N02
78.C1GM3.AF10B
F4-3200C16D-8GVKB

MTA4ATF51264AZ-2G6B1
MTA8ATF1G64AZ-2G3B1
MTA16ATF2G64AZ-2G6B1
HMA41GU7AFR8N-TF T0
HMA451U7AFR8N-TF T0
HMA41GU6AFR8N-UH N0
M378A2K43BB1-CTD
M378A1K43BB1-CRC
M378A1G43EB1-CRC

Test BIOS 0083

Same as 0081 but with "2T" DRAM Mode when using above 2666 DRAM Ratio.
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Sigtran
Level 10
Let's hope so... Techically it should be possible, since x470 is basically the same as x370, so no reason that would be possible to support Ryzen5000 with x470 but not with x370.

Sure, one issue is that AMD does not want to support manufacturers (so they are here on their own), and the other issue is BIOS size needed for such support. Regarding both issues, manufacturers can (if they really want) find appropriate solution, but need time and willingness.

If I were ASUS, I would support top of line boards (like CH6) as long as technically possible, as a statement that premium boards also come with premium care, and not just premium features and quality... let's hope.

r3dleh
Level 7
apparently what is needed is AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.1.0.0 B for performance optimized on Ryzen 5000 series processors and we're stuck with AGESA Combo PI V1 1.0.0.6
Asus Crosshair VI hero | AMD Ryzen 1700 | G.Skill Trident Z 3200Mhz CAS16 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | Seasonic S12II 620W | Ignorance is bliss!

r3dleh
Level 7
apparently all we need is needed 'AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.1.0.0 B performance optimized on Ryzen 5000 series processors' and we're stuck with 'AGESA Combo PI V1 1.0.0.6'
Asus Crosshair VI hero | AMD Ryzen 1700 | G.Skill Trident Z 3200Mhz CAS16 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | Seasonic S12II 620W | Ignorance is bliss!

Hello, I am not entirely clear if there is any advantage in updating BIOS with a 1800x. I'm still in BIOS 6401 with
Update AGESA version to 1.0.0.6. Really if I put version 7901 with AGESA PI V1 1.0.0.6 would I notice something? On the other hand .. to update from such an old version to the latest one, do you have to follow any steps? Is there any risk, bug?

Hopefully we get compatibility with ryzen 5000. A premium motherboard at least should have good support.

Thanks

Feo11 wrote:
Hello, I am not entirely clear if there is any advantage in updating BIOS with a 1800x. I'm still in BIOS 6401 with
Update AGESA version to 1.0.0.6. Really if I put version 7901 with AGESA PI V1 1.0.0.6 would I notice something? On the other hand .. to update from such an old version to the latest one, do you have to follow any steps? Is there any risk, bug?

Hopefully we get compatibility with ryzen 5000. A premium motherboard at least should have good support.

Thanks


Don't know how much benefit you'll have but hopefully better stability better Dram support, oc etc...

But if you want to update from a older bios you can pick the last one i'm sure.
Asus Crosshair VI hero | AMD Ryzen 1700 | G.Skill Trident Z 3200Mhz CAS16 | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | Seasonic S12II 620W | Ignorance is bliss!

r3dleh wrote:
apparently all we need is needed 'AMD AGESA ComboV2 1.1.0.0 B performance optimized on Ryzen 5000 series processors' and we're stuck with 'AGESA Combo PI V1 1.0.0.6'


Asrock provides a beta version for 300 chipsets:

https://www.hkepc.com/19945/%E8%88%8A%E5%A6%96%E6%9D%BF%E4%B9%9F%E5%8F%AF%E5%BE%A9%E6%B4%BB_%E8%BF%B...

Alex656 wrote:
Asrock provides a beta version for 300 chipsets:

https://www.hkepc.com/19945/%E8%88%8A%E5%A6%96%E6%9D%BF%E4%B9%9F%E5%8F%AF%E5%BE%A9%E6%B4%BB_%E8%BF%B...


This is a good news. As said before, there should be no technical limitation that X470 support new Ryzen CPUs but X370 not, since essentially they are same chipset... It is just that AMD will probably not provide any help and support Asus in preparation of such BIOS releases... Hoping to see some beta release for Asus X370 boards, at least for CH6 family...

Riekopo
Level 9
I have Crosshair VI Extreme. Will support new Zen 3 CPU's? I am decide to upgrade my 1800X CPU.

JohnnyBftw
Level 7
Hi guys, proud X370 Chrosshair VI owner here.
Currently very impressed with the latest BIOS Version 7901 update on this board running my R5 3600X at a 3733Mhz RAM OC with the Infinity Fabric OC'ed at 1866Mhz.

I just wanted to ask if its planned to get another update enabling Nvidia Resizable Bar or AMD Smart Cache.

Again many thanks for the long term support on this awesome board.
ASUS is truly the best.

I'll just leave this here. Draw your own conclusions.
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I'll let you all know what Asrock is up to these days.

Back in November 2020 we had leaks from China about an Asrock A320M-HDV running a 4750G, 5950x, all running near their fclk limits.

Fast forward to December:
Reddit: New Experimental BIOS for AMD 300 Series Motherboards This is a month old as of 11/01/21.

Update to AMD AGESA Combo-AM4 V2 1.1.0.0


Asrock's experimental beta ComboPI V2 BIOSes for their 300 series boards support Zen, Zen+, Zen2, Zen3, all in 16MB total size. That is:

  • Ryzen 1xxx (Summit Ridge)
  • Ryzen 2xxx, 2xxxG (Pinnacle Ridge, Raven Ridge)
  • Ryzen 3xxx, 3xxxG (Matisse, Picasso)
  • Ryzen 4xxxG (Renoir)
  • Ryzen 5xxx (Vermeer)

No 32MB BIOS chip required, 400-500 series chipset is not required either. B450/X470 are lower power revisions of B350/X370 anyway. On top of it all, Ryzen CPUs are SoCs, they don't need a chipset to run (go have a look at A300/X300), motherboard is merely a socket for the SoC to plug into, initialize and run, and the chipset a connectivity extender.


Reddit: Asrock AB350 itx gaming and 5600x works just fine



This guy upgraded from a 1600 (AE, Summit Ridge) on this experimental beta public BIOS to a 5600X. On a B350 board. No more distant anecdotal posts from China, it's real.

So, yeah, no technical reason why 300 series boards can't get updated to the newer AGESA branch, no technical reason why 5000 series CPUs can't be supported. Asrock clearly doesn't care about AMD's official compatibility chart.

ASUS took this position before, of not caring about AMD's official compatibility chart. Let's have a look at that chart again. A320 isn't supposed to support Ryzen 3xxx series CPUs, but all their A320 boards do. For example, let's see the A320M-K. No need to check what microcodes are included in that board's BIOS, their very own CPU compatibility chart for the A320M-K lists all 3000 series CPUs. In fact, all manufacturers ignored AMD and extended support to A320.


For some odd reason, this time, when it comes to 5000 series CPUs and all 300 series boards, this is ASUS' stance. Big no. None of that going the extra mile stuff as with A320 and 3000 series CPUs.

So, a flagship 300 series board, best of the 300 series generation and the only board that took AM4 seriously from the start (apart from Asrock's X370 Taichi), that also gives the C7H and the C8H a run for their money, won't get updated for some obscure reason. Not even an experimental BIOS, no warranty, as-is BIOS, up to the user to take the risk and deal with the consequences. Nothing.. The Taichi got it.

They did it with A320 and all 3000 series CPUs, no reason why they can't do it for all their 300 series boards and 5000 series CPUs. This also means SAM support.

Can't be bothered? Okay, then do your flagship 300 series boards (C6H, C6E) only and let's all move on.

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The question is then, can't do it, or won't do it?

Clearly it's not can't, as Asrock already did it, and Gigabyte is supposed to be working on it right now. Would be a shame if they're the only manufacturers that went the extra mile.

As of now, it's won't do it. Will ASUS change its position in the future?

One last thing: face your user base with an honest response, don't delete this post.