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Crosshair VI Hero: UEFI build update thread

Raja
Level 13
Directly from Elmor:

Beta BIOS 3008 for C6H/C6HWIFI/C6E:

AGESA 1.0.7.1, temperature offset fixed after S3 resume, GPU Post function fixed, 0d with some GPUs fixed

http://www.mediafire.com/file/f95motjmh211e7h/CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO-ASUS-3008.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ntn6i3jiub610ai/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-HERO-WIFI-AC-ASUS-3008.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/file/yj22ld2rmmedp01/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VI-EXTREME-ASUS-3008.zip





C6H Test BIOS 0020 with AGESA 1007 (405200c4e299c1eed9a0044edec9aba51f37cee1d70caabe40b9485b0604521a)

In order to get back to an older version after flashing, you have to use USB BIOS Flashback.

Let me know how it works for you, especially regarding cold boot issues. Any confirmed bugs in the bug report form please




Beta BIOS 1501

* Workaround for some CPUs stuck at 22x ratio if using override voltage
* Fixes PCIEX4 bandwidth setting getting lost after power is removed
* Same DRAM boot behavior as 1403 (no cold boot fix)
* Same DRAM profiles as in 9920
* Still has the Vcore value issue when booting with Offset Mode and switching to Manual Mode

Crosshair VI Hero 1501 SHA256 EDE223DC6897B7199C93D9985E28B7A2CD1B8A8DB2DCBF3D3555A521DB4F045D
Crosshair VI Hero Wifi AC 1501 SHA256 0D9F51F43AA3A56A4AC984B11A52F58451B76F8A7CCB9A04E1C3194231C9D4DA






UEFI build 9920 for the C6H:

* Improved DRAM cold boot, results in slightly longer POST time
* Fix for CPU Ratio stuck at 22x on some CPUs when using Vcore override/offset
* SenseMi Skew is now Disabled by default. If you want to return to previous behavior set SenseMi Skew = Enabled and Offset = 272.
* Added DRAM profiles for Samsung B-based DIMMs with tuned subtimings, including The Stilt's settings



C6H beta UEFI 1403

* Fixed W_PUMP and AIO_PUMP speeds during POST
* Fixed Fan tuning sometimes failing
* Fixed a few issues with AMD USB3.1 ports
* Some tuning on DRAM settings, let us know how they work for you. tRDRD_Sc is still at 5 above 3500 MHz as it helps with stability. For performance you want to force this to 1. We'll consider changing this in future releases as the performance impact can be quite noticeable in certain applications.

An update on DRAM Boot Voltage, currently it should be 1.35V by default if the DRAM Voltage is changed. So if you're setting DRAM Voltage to above 1.35V, you might want to sync this setting. Additionally there might be scenarios where you will have better luck by syncing DRAM Boot Voltage to DRAM Voltage even at lower values.




AGESA 1006 RC4 official UEFI 1401

Just tested quickly 3600 memory and cold booting, seems good but you guys are going to have to help me test this before we have a judgement. Seems CPU temp reading from SIO now has -20*C offset for XFR enabled CPUs.





UEFI build 1107





Older test builds:


Test BIOS 0079

Test BIOS with new AGESA 1004a, with a couple of bugfixes. Up to 5% performance increases in specific applications. Also has P-state overclocking working with BCLK increase. If you want to keep C-states, make sure to set Advanced\AMD CBS\Zen Common Options\Global C-state Control = Enabled. There are two new settings under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DDR4 Common Options\ you might want to take a look at, Fail_CNT and ProcODT. Fail_CNT decides how many times to retry when DRAM training fails (F9 -> 0d), default is now 1. ProcODT can help improve your DRAM overclocking. There's a setting available also on previous BIOSes under AMD CBS\UMC Common Options\DRAM Memory Mapping named BankGroupSwap. If you have 2x Single-Rank modules you can try setting this to Disabled and you might see some performance boost in certain applications.

Test BIOS 0081

Same as 0079 but has ProcODT default = 53.3 ohm

Test BIOS 0082

Same as 0081 but with a DRAM compability patch for the below part numbers

CMK16GX4M4A2133C13
AHU08GGB13CGT7G
PV416G240C5QK
F4-2400C15Q-32GRR
TCD44G2400C14BK
F4-2666C16Q2-64GRB
AVD4UZ126661504G
BLT8G4D26AFTA.16FAD
IMA41GU6MFR8N-C F0
MD16GK4D4266615AXR
HX430C15PB2K4/16
HX430C15PBK4/32
AX4U3333W4G16-QGZ
GAM4DBLBM2133D15IE041C
TC48G24S817
SP004GBLFU213N02
78.C1GM3.AF10B
F4-3200C16D-8GVKB

MTA4ATF51264AZ-2G6B1
MTA8ATF1G64AZ-2G3B1
MTA16ATF2G64AZ-2G6B1
HMA41GU7AFR8N-TF T0
HMA451U7AFR8N-TF T0
HMA41GU6AFR8N-UH N0
M378A2K43BB1-CTD
M378A1K43BB1-CRC
M378A1G43EB1-CRC

Test BIOS 0083

Same as 0081 but with "2T" DRAM Mode when using above 2666 DRAM Ratio.
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brumylad2017 wrote:
1. pstate overclocking no longer works.
2. with xmp profile set on onlyin this bios 3502 earlier every time i re entered the bios seemed very crashy.

so clearly 2 issues there ive found bound to be more im going back to 3008 until i see another more stable build be released.


I would say voltages are a bit out of control with this BIOS as well. It should not take 1.46+ volts to run my RAM higher than 3200 when it is rated for 3600.
Syaoran

Syaoran wrote:
I would say voltages are a bit out of control with this BIOS as well. It should not take 1.46+ volts to run my RAM higher than 3200 when it is rated for 3600.


i know man ......i also have 3600 mhz ram ...running pretty high ....but my ram voltage to make it run 3600 is 1.61 volts in bios...
but my ram is cl18 timings .....with ram at 1.6 volts i can so far run cl16 timings ...with alternate tighter sub timings....i agree voltage is crazy .....but i will say this to
if you buy 3600 mhz ram rated at 1.35 volts on Intel ......its going to be higher on Ryzen it all is .....i have no clue about that ram made specifically for ryzen because i dont have any.....as far as i know this 3600 mhz single sided Samsung b die i have will go to 1.8 volts with out worry off it exploding from what i hear .....
but i do not want to go much higher on the voltage then what i am at now because i hear other things to ...and its so hard to know what is true and what is just BS coming from a uneducated and only guessing overclockers ...and i run into that all over the place.....i know alot of $hit about Ryzen ....and i can admit i do not know it all yet ......but i defiantly understand how overclocking works on ryzen...more so then most people in some forums like to pretend they do...lmao....not talking bout this forum ....but overclocking Ryzen and what works with Ryzen .....is not the same as any other thing any one has overclocked on ....not no intel ....not no older amd cpu.....and most do not understand this ..... every one seems to think overclocking ryzen is as simple as overclocking the older amd cpu's or a intel cpu..... and they could not be more wrong .....if your good with thinking skills and study how Ryzen truly works .....its not hard to understand it and know its a entirely new world of overclocking and a entirely different beast.....tight ass timings good for ryzen?......not if the clock speed is not high enough ......timings dont make as much of a diferance on ram and cache latancys of the cpu as the ram clock speed does....looser timings and higher clock speed shows it in all test's ive done .....of course the tighter the timings the more help your tests score will get .....but on ryzen ...the ram clock speed is more important ! due to the nature of the infinity fabric with in Ryzen and how it all ties together ...... man i could go on and on and on about Ryzen and overclocking it ......ive tweaked on this system for over a year now and i LOVE IT..........i wuz just as upset as everyone else when i first got it ....we all know how the launch went and what we got the first week of ryzen's release .....but i had faith! and man ...i gotta tell ya after seeing this system running on this ram at 3600+ cl16 with tighter sub timings ......man i am impressed as ever ....this is the baddest, strongest, fastest, PC i have ever seen! ...... LOVING MY RYZEN WITH 3600mhz ram .......THANKS ASUS, THANKS AMD!!!! its the AMD build ive always wanted ....well...untill threadripper came out...lol 64 pci-e lanes ....yeaaaaaaahooooooo i want it .....i want it bad.....AMD / ASUS send me a threadripper with some 3800 mhz ram .....and ill show you how well i can overclock that to...lol......well i'm just rambling on now man ..... and im sure no one cares.....lol... l8r

Demoniacstar wrote:
i know man ......i also have 3600 mhz ram ...running pretty high ....but my ram voltage to make it run 3600 is 1.61 volts in bios...
but my ram is cl18 timings .....with ram at 1.6 volts i can so far run cl16 timings ...with alternate tighter sub timings....i agree voltage is crazy .....but i will say this to
if you buy 3600 mhz ram rated at 1.35 volts on Intel ......its going to be higher on Ryzen it all is .....i have no clue about that ram made specifically for ryzen because i dont have any.....as far as i know this 3600 mhz single sided Samsung b die i have will go to 1.8 volts with out worry off it exploding from what i hear .....
but i do not want to go much higher on the voltage then what i am at now because i hear other things to ...and its so hard to know what is true and what is just BS coming from a uneducated and only guessing overclockers ...and i run into that all over the place.....i know alot of $hit about Ryzen ....and i can admit i do not know it all yet ......but i defiantly understand how overclocking works on ryzen...more so then most people in some forums like to pretend they do...lmao....not talking bout this forum ....but overclocking Ryzen and what works with Ryzen .....is not the same as any other thing any one has overclocked on ....not no intel ....not no older amd cpu.....and most do not understand this ..... every one seems to think overclocking ryzen is as simple as overclocking the older amd cpu's or a intel cpu..... and they could not be more wrong .....if your good with thinking skills and study how Ryzen truly works .....its not hard to understand it and know its a entirely new world of overclocking and a entirely different beast.....tight ass timings good for ryzen?......not if the clock speed is not high enough ......timings dont make as much of a diferance on ram and cache latancys of the cpu as the ram clock speed does....looser timings and higher clock speed shows it in all test's ive done .....of course the tighter the timings the more help your tests score will get .....but on ryzen ...the ram clock speed is more important ! due to the nature of the infinity fabric with in Ryzen and how it all ties together ...... man i could go on and on and on about Ryzen and overclocking it ......ive tweaked on this system for over a year now and i LOVE IT..........i wuz just as upset as everyone else when i first got it ....we all know how the launch went and what we got the first week of ryzen's release .....but i had faith! and man ...i gotta tell ya after seeing this system running on this ram at 3600+ cl16 with tighter sub timings ......man i am impressed as ever ....this is the baddest, strongest, fastest, PC i have ever seen! ...... LOVING MY RYZEN WITH 3600mhz ram .......THANKS ASUS, THANKS AMD!!!! its the AMD build ive always wanted ....well...untill threadripper came out...lol 64 pci-e lanes ....yeaaaaaaahooooooo i want it .....i want it bad.....AMD / ASUS send me a threadripper with some 3800 mhz ram .....and ill show you how well i can overclock that to...lol......well i'm just rambling on now man ..... and im sure no one cares.....lol... l8r


I wouldn't dare take my RAM to 1.61v. That seems insanely high, at least in my opinion. I expected a bit more voltage but 1.46 in my opinion seems like too much over 1.35. I have never been able to get my RAM stable on this board at 3600MHz. Even on 3502, I had 3501MHz stable for a few days before the board just decided it would no longer boot at those settings or anything over 3200MHz for the RAM. I like the Ryzen platform and such but it just seems like this board is the only disappointment for components in my system. I had to pull my sound card as well because 3502 has my sound dropping off about every 20 minutes. I didn't have this issue with any of the previous BIOS's in quite a while. The sound card works perfectly fine in my other system, which it is now in.


sadaharu wrote:
CROSSHAIR VI HERO BIOS 3502 ;

So this one is too another terrible - nothing solved or updated - useless bios then ?

Should i download it ? Or wait for another 2 months to see another .... - .... - .... bios ?

Maan. I wish i could return my board and go with gigabyte. Mistakes mistakes ....

Oh boi.


I am not happy with this BIOS either. It would seem that on top of the CPU Clock speed being reported wrong in the BIOS. I am also questioning the voltages being reported as well. The SOC voltage regardless of what I set it at doesn't ever change from 1.33v. However, setting it manually to 1.5 makes a difference in system stability even though the BIOS never reports the voltage changing.

I have a friend with the K7, who bought it off of my recommendation. He picked up PC4-4000MHz RAM, which I told him was absolutely crazy for his build new build I helped him with a couple of weeks ago. With the latest BIOS (F10) though and minimal effort, he has it running at 3733MHz C18 with no stability issue after just over a week. He isn't running 32GB of RAM but he's got 16GB (2X8GB). With two sticks, this board still won't reliably hit 3600MHz for me. Their audio drivers also have 5.1 support over optical, which Asus removed from theirs quite a while back. I have been very tempted by the K7 for quite a while and have been casually reading their forum. If the X470 chipsets weren't so close to being released, I would cave in and buy one. The layout of the board might not be as nice as the Asus Crosshair VI for M.2 placement but they have definitely got something right that Asus just can't seem to nail down.
Syaoran

Demoniacstar wrote:
i know man ......i also have 3600 mhz ram ...running pretty high ....but my ram voltage to make it run 3600 is 1.61 volts in bios...
but my ram is cl18 timings .....with ram at 1.6 volts i can so far run cl16 timings ...with alternate tighter sub timings....i agree voltage is crazy .....but i will say this to
if you buy 3600 mhz ram rated at 1.35 volts on Intel ......its going to be higher on Ryzen it all is .....i have no clue about that ram made specifically for ryzen because i dont have any.....as far as i know this 3600 mhz single sided Samsung b die i have will go to 1.8 volts with out worry off it exploding from what i hear .....
but i do not want to go much higher on the voltage then what i am at now because i hear other things to ...and its so hard to know what is true and what is just BS coming from a uneducated and only guessing overclockers ...and i run into that all over the place.....i know alot of $hit about Ryzen ....and i can admit i do not know it all yet ......but i defiantly understand how overclocking works on ryzen...more so then most people in some forums like to pretend they do...lmao....not talking bout this forum ....but overclocking Ryzen and what works with Ryzen .....is not the same as any other thing any one has overclocked on ....not no intel ....not no older amd cpu.....and most do not understand this ..... every one seems to think overclocking ryzen is as simple as overclocking the older amd cpu's or a intel cpu..... and they could not be more wrong .....if your good with thinking skills and study how Ryzen truly works .....its not hard to understand it and know its a entirely new world of overclocking and a entirely different beast.....tight ass timings good for ryzen?......not if the clock speed is not high enough ......timings dont make as much of a diferance on ram and cache latancys of the cpu as the ram clock speed does....looser timings and higher clock speed shows it in all test's ive done .....of course the tighter the timings the more help your tests score will get .....but on ryzen ...the ram clock speed is more important ! due to the nature of the infinity fabric with in Ryzen and how it all ties together ...... man i could go on and on and on about Ryzen and overclocking it ......ive tweaked on this system for over a year now and i LOVE IT..........i wuz just as upset as everyone else when i first got it ....we all know how the launch went and what we got the first week of ryzen's release .....but i had faith! and man ...i gotta tell ya after seeing this system running on this ram at 3600+ cl16 with tighter sub timings ......man i am impressed as ever ....this is the baddest, strongest, fastest, PC i have ever seen! ...... LOVING MY RYZEN WITH 3600mhz ram .......THANKS ASUS, THANKS AMD!!!! its the AMD build ive always wanted ....well...untill threadripper came out...lol 64 pci-e lanes ....yeaaaaaaahooooooo i want it .....i want it bad.....AMD / ASUS send me a threadripper with some 3800 mhz ram .....and ill show you how well i can overclock that to...lol......well i'm just rambling on now man ..... and im sure no one cares.....lol... l8r



Nice,
anyway comparing same DRAM speeds is nonsense. AMD IMC puts much more GB/s than Intel at those speeds.

Super happy to see a DOCP profile for 3400 in 3502. Seems to work great.

Ryzen94511 wrote:
Nice,
anyway comparing same DRAM speeds is nonsense. AMD IMC puts much more GB/s than Intel at those speeds.

im not comparing DRAM SPEED OF RYZEN TO NOTHING ELSE BUT RYZEN MAN SO I DONT KNOW WARE THAT COMES FROM.........
I AM HOWEVER COMPARING THE WAY RYZEN OVERCLOCKS TO OLDER CPU'S ON BOTH SIDES AND EVEN NEW INTELS......BECAUSE IT IS TOTALLY A NEW BALL GAME HERE AND IF YOU DON'T GET IT ......WELL THEN YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!!! AND YOU NEVER WILL......

fLaXi0n wrote:
My BCLK fluctuates between 98 and 102 with 3502 bios


I also always have the same 99.3 MHz
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6 GHZ (NOCTUA NH-U12S SE) ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VI HERO (Sapphire Nitron+Radeon RX 580 4G) G.SKILL Flare X DDR4-3200Mhz C14 32 GB (4x8GB) Samsung 970 PRO 512 M.2 SSD \Samsung 850 PRO 512GB 550MB-520MB/s Sata3 SSD

sadaharu
Level 7
CROSSHAIR VI HERO BIOS 3502 ;

So this one is too another terrible - nothing solved or updated - useless bios then ?

Should i download it ? Or wait for another 2 months to see another .... - .... - .... bios ?

Maan. I wish i could return my board and go with gigabyte. Mistakes mistakes ....

Oh boi.

rsquires
Level 9
hmm. The latest CPU-Z version 1.83 is reporting my cpu speed as 5ghz -- it's 4ghz -- and the ram speed is reported incorrectly also. Is this a problem with the 3008 bios?

Darth_Ender
Level 9
I have mine at 3.8ghz, ram at 3200 (64gb) with my 1800x. Problem is, every program gives a different core voltage readout. The bios can't even be trusted because the voltage it reports is the cpu at full speed but not under load. So the voltage shown in the bios is nearly .2v higher than when under load even with cpu load line set to level 3.

So i go by cpu temps which i think is an acceptable measure of risk to the cpu at non li2 temps. Mine under full avx load only hits 70c. At idle, 26c. Running at 1.4ghz at around 1.1v.