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Asus Strix X470-F Gaming owners thread

AniChatt
Level 9
Hello guys, I am starting this thread for all Stix X470-F owners to discuss their overclock settings, issues etc. So that everyone get help quickly in a organised way. Installed my old 1600x in this mobo with 4011 bios and flareX 3200 with default docp and it works just fine without any issues so far. One thing to mention The board pushes 1.15v soc default docp profile. Is it normal seems a bit high for me as I have upgraded from B350-F gaming.
However a small issue I believe, the asus lighting control is not behaving normal. I mean just after login to windows it is taking a bit time to start (5min) before that if I try to on Lighting Control by clicking it, program crash window appears after few seconds. But when it starts on it's own then I can open asus lighting control. Anyone experiencing similar issue???
Also tried to use older version.
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Flashgun wrote:
I bought this mobo and almost bought the Gskill F4-3200C16D-16GTZR, that is in the QVL list on the ASUS site.
I read at the Gskill site that the Ryzen optimized RAM is the F4-3200C16D-16GTZRX. I can't find the F4-3200C16D-16GTZRX, can i buy the F4-3200C16D-16GTZR ?
Thanks.


i checked the QVL and F4-3200C16D-16GTZR it's there and supported no probemes
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deankenny wrote:
What's going on ASUS?

Look how many of us have spent £180+ on one of your products and left with all sorts of problems, most being stupid temps and voltage levels on the latest bios. Are Asus even going to release a new bios, checked everyday for weeks now and nothing.


i am using this Motherboard and i didn't face temps or voltage issues maybe because i am using 2400G , i am planing to get 2700x soon but i am afraid of this problems

Wheres_Waldo
Level 7
With negative offset I am better on temps about 34° - 35°C idle and 55° - 60° C load, voltages are better too. idles at 0.756 V and peak at 1.456 V according to HWiNFO64.
Temps are a result of using two rather large radiators and a custom cooling loop. My X370-F Gaming w/1700X runs about 15° C warmer under load and 5° C warmer at idle using an All-In-One cooler.
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AniChatt
Level 9
Here is my RAM oc tips, before that in case of instability use 4008 bios. with few security patches 4011 has ram compatibility issues and fix are close to horizon,

1. Don't use typhoon. It is not for newbies and it can soft break your ram if not used properly.
2. Go to bios>advanced tab>tools>RAM SPD info and take the snapshoot of settings with any camera you have. Note that the the first 6 are most important and after that it is not quite significant but may be useful some cases.
3. Try with default DOCP first. Apply it and stress test the ram with HCI memtest dangwang version for 300%+ coverage. This is the hands down the best sw to check your ram nothing else works better.
4. if 3200 (your default spd oc profile) is not working then try to test a lower clock in default docp say 3066Mhz and test.
5. If none of these works then you have to set the timing & volt manually as per spd info I have told before.
6. Do not push more than 1.15v for soc (it is not required for almost any Ryzen cpu amd has made), better something around 1.10v.
7. DO not push more than 1.40v for ram. Your XMP voltage will be mentioned in the kit webpage I believe it may be 1.35v. SO strat from that voltage.
8. Last is VDRM voltage and it is half the ram voltage by design. Some times reducing this volt a little bit improves stability.
9. ProcODT i.e. On-die termination a resistance is set to block a instruction signal from cpu, is default auto. You can test it from 40 to 60 ohm but don't give more than 60. Sometime helps but I have not found it really useful. Auto works just good for me.
10. Ryzan DRAM calculator gives a bit more suggestion on timing. you may test with different timing in safe - fast - extreme performance category. but again not worked good for me.

lastly the bottom line: Don't expect any performance gain from 2900+ Mhz up to 3200. It is simply intangible. So all of this suggestions is just for fun of overclocking. And if you have a decent Samsung B-die kit with 3200xmp then it is 98% chance that on any ryzen X series mobo it will hit rated clock with no to minimum tweaking.

Just gonna leave this here...


74582


Latest BIOS Version 4011

- G.Skill Flare X (2x8GB) 3200MHz overclocked to 3466MHz with 1.45v, auto soc v (which is 1.15) with the Stilts fast b-die timings for 3333MHz.

- Ryzen 5 2600X overclocked to 4.2GHz 1.381v LLC Level 3 max temp under 100% load 70.3C on H115i 280mm AIO Watercooler fixed 1200rpm on Radiator Fans.

- 1450 Cinebench score

I also tested auto overclocking with performance enhancer level 3 but I personally didn't like it. Way to much unnecessary voltage even with precision boost overdrive + scalar disabled, allcore boost only to 4.15GHz and higher temperature. I could run 4.25GHz with 1.4v and Level 4 LLC since it was stable but didn't like temperature going over 70C under full load, that's the point where Ryzen gets unstable.

I also have the blackscreen bug when I run Corsair Link and HWInfo at the same time while stress testing, so I just close Link when I want to use HWInfo and I'm fine, hopefully they gonna fix that soon.

Other than that I'm super satisfied with this hardware.

Feel free to ask any questions.

norman_87 wrote:
Just gonna leave this here...
Feel free to ask any questions.


what is the RAM test sw you are using and where to get it? How it stacks compared to HCI Memtest?
Impressive result man.....

AniChatt wrote:

6. Do not push more than 1.15v for soc (it is not required for almost any Ryzen cpu amd has made), better something around 1.10v.
7. DO not push more than 1.40v for ram. Your XMP voltage will be mentioned in the kit webpage I believe it may be 1.35v. SO strat from that voltage.


This is simply not true, I can't stand people giving wrong information I'm sorry, for example on b-die you can safely push up to 1.5v for daily where as 1.45v is recommended. DDR4 doesn't produce much heat, heck people even running up to 1.9v for benching.

SOC Voltage up to 1.2 safe max there are multiple AMD resources for that information even tho in my experience AMD CPU's just scale better with 1.1 - 1.15v as you already mentioned.

norman_87 wrote:
This is simply not true, I can't stand people giving wrong information I'm sorry, for example on b-die you can safely push up to 1.5v for daily where as 1.45v is recommended. DDR4 doesn't produce much heat, heck people even running up to 1.9v for benching.

SOC Voltage up to 1.2 safe max there are multiple AMD resources for that information even tho in my experience AMD CPU's just scale better with 1.1 - 1.15v as you already mentioned.


Altough your right in some cases, pushing soc voltage above 1.15 could theoretical help, same goes for the mem voltages.
But e.g in my case, with an mediocre IMC, and havet seen any advantes pushing soc beyond 1.05 and ram beyond 1.365.
using 4x8 gig dimms so lots stress on IMC.

Anyway this was giving some tips to someone who has no experience in overlclocking, so setting extreme voltages is not where you start.
ps some nice overclock on your mem there, im jealous:)

norman_87 wrote:
DDR4 doesn't produce much heat, heck people even running up to 1.9v for benching.

SOC Voltage up to 1.2 safe max there are multiple AMD resources.


Point 1: Please don't post what enthusiasts are doing since most of the users who are following this thread have very little or no idea what can go wrong when you start to increase voltage above a certain limit. Yes I do agree and have read few post where people are claiming to set 1.50v on ram. At this point I would suggest you to read a post related to asus crosshair VI hero where they have thermal imaged the board during stress test and show the hottest part of the board is not the CPU vrm but the RAM chokes which remains +52C but have not mentioned what voltage and oc the ram are that time. I am not saying this not to tell it is unsafe but you have to learn properly not only for the RAM but also for the entire system when you are pushing to much voltage to a particular component. Again Crosshair has two phase design for RAM and this board has 1 phase (as per my info and not found any detailed vrm analysis) so be careful with your 1.5+ volt.

Point 2: The soc voltage. Check this, https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3251-raven-ridge-soc-voltage-guidelines-how-to-kill-cpu-with-safe... Very funny title "how to kill cpu with safe voltage 🙂
They have done a detailed analysis on CPU/SoC voltage and specially the difference between actual vs sensor reading. I have not seen anything better than this. They have pointed out that 1.15v will be the best max soc to gain best possible result and yes you can go up to 1.20 safely but it is less likely that you would need this much.

Lastly I have recommend for majority of the people and not for the enthusiast or the silicon lottery winners. Overclocking involves risk and if any one is not knowledgeable enough to know what to check during a overclock except the voltage and temp of CPU/RAM they might get into trouble with recommendations like "people even running up to 1.9v" or "1.5v safe". Because you may have great understanding but not for others so it is better to recommend something more safe to play with. Moreover an enthusiast will figure out this any way by testing.

O last of all correct me if I am wrong.... I always appreciate healthy debate..:)

Does anyone have the Gskill 16GB F4-3000C15D-16GTZR ? The QVL shows F4-3000C15D-8GTZB, but this is a 2x4GB Kit Samsung, but it also shows F4-3000C16D-16GTZR, that is a SK Hynix. Will i be able to run at least 2933Mhz ? Or it's better to buy the 2400Mhz module that is made for ryzen (GTZRX)?