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Asus Strix X470-F Gaming owners thread

AniChatt
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Hello guys, I am starting this thread for all Stix X470-F owners to discuss their overclock settings, issues etc. So that everyone get help quickly in a organised way. Installed my old 1600x in this mobo with 4011 bios and flareX 3200 with default docp and it works just fine without any issues so far. One thing to mention The board pushes 1.15v soc default docp profile. Is it normal seems a bit high for me as I have upgraded from B350-F gaming.
However a small issue I believe, the asus lighting control is not behaving normal. I mean just after login to windows it is taking a bit time to start (5min) before that if I try to on Lighting Control by clicking it, program crash window appears after few seconds. But when it starts on it's own then I can open asus lighting control. Anyone experiencing similar issue???
Also tried to use older version.
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as i understand i need to backup mac sn and other stuf, then modify older bios file and flash it?

EEFREETH wrote:


That's my Bios Config...


1.425V fixed allcore voltage for 2nd Gen Ryzen will degrade your CPU within a few weeks/months, 1.425V was the safe max for 1st gen but not for 2nd gen, there is a guy on the overclocking discord channel who tested four 2nd gen ryzen cpu's and he found degration within a few weeks using more than 1.38V allcore.

If you want your 2700X to last and not degrade, back down that voltage.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/amtnt4/ryzen_generation_2_safeunsafe_voltages_tested/


He tested each 2700x at a different voltage ranging from 1.375v to 1.425, here are the voltages for each 2700x and their temps at each voltage.

2700x sample 1 - 1.425v, max of 65c while gaming/daily tasks - saw degradation of around 100mhz at the same voltages within 3 months


2700x sample 2 - 1.4v, max of 60c while gaming/daily tasks - saw degradation in around 3 months and 2 weeks


2700x sample 3 - 1.385v, still around 60c while gaming/daily tasks, saw degradation in just shy of 4 months


2700x sample 4 - 1.375v, max of 58c - no degredation after just above 6 months now

Running 4602 with VSOC at 1.05 and a slight stable negative offset on core.
On a 2700x with 3000mhz Ram (DOCP Profile)
Would be interested in peoples Cinebench R20 scores.
PBO is on by default in this version of the BIOS so left it on AUTO to do its goodness
Everything else is stock
TDIE hits 82 on a Noctua DH15 with 2 fans

Getting 4070 in Cinebench R20.

Now that is interesting because I have to my left a 2700x running on a MSI X470 Gaming Pro. PBO is off on that BIOS revision (it has been removed)
RAM on other machine is at 3200 DOCP but all else at stock
I run that on a 280mm RAD with an AIO
Temps hit 71 TDIE and
My cinebench R20 is 3941

d0genzenji wrote:

Getting 4070 in Cinebench R20.


Ask and you shall receive:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?102858-Asus-Strix-X470-F-Gaming-owners-thread/page89#post7...
X470-F, 2700X, 5700 XT Nitro+, 970 EVO, LanCool 2 Mesh Performance, H115i Pro, 16GB3000C14, TT650W Gold

norman_87 wrote:
1.425V fixed allcore voltage for 2nd Gen Ryzen will degrade your CPU within a few weeks/months, 1.425V was the safe max for 1st gen but not for 2nd gen, there is a guy on the overclocking discord channel who tested four 2nd gen ryzen cpu's and he found degration within a few weeks using more than 1.38V allcore.

If you want your 2700X to last and not degrade, back down that voltage.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/amtnt4/ryzen_generation_2_safeunsafe_voltages_tested/


He tested each 2700x at a different voltage ranging from 1.375v to 1.425, here are the voltages for each 2700x and their temps at each voltage.

2700x sample 1 - 1.425v, max of 65c while gaming/daily tasks - saw degradation of around 100mhz at the same voltages within 3 months


2700x sample 2 - 1.4v, max of 60c while gaming/daily tasks - saw degradation in around 3 months and 2 weeks


2700x sample 3 - 1.385v, still around 60c while gaming/daily tasks, saw degradation in just shy of 4 months


2700x sample 4 - 1.375v, max of 58c - no degredation after just above 6 months now


So this means CPU temps should be kept under 60C to keep degradation away?

Alex0915 wrote:
So this means CPU temps should be kept under 60C to keep degradation away?

That's an over-simplification, please read the corresponding threads to draw your conclusions.

For what I understand It's mostly about having a constant high voltage/clock on all cores without xfr/pbo, or energy saving features active a under manual OC -- before temperature alone comes current. PBO + negative offset with scalar 10X should sit bellow that "critical" voltage under all-core max load, while spikes above it are time limited.

Alex0915 wrote:
So this means CPU temps should be kept under 60C to keep degradation away?

Heat doesn't help but 60°C is nowhere near the unsafe temperature for these CPUs. It's more about voltage. That's why I tend to favor PBO on these chips over traditional overclocking. The CPU can dial itself all the way down to something like ~.7V when idling.

With C6 still enabled and a power profile with core parking it's even possible to rest cores for short intervals with a manual OC, but they'll just show their last clock/voltage in software monitoring. The same applies with xfr+cnq+c6, sometimes a core that shows 0,7V might be drawing even lower because it's intermittently sleeping (iirc ~0,2V?).

Alcolawl wrote:
Heat doesn't help but 60°C is nowhere near the unsafe temperature for these CPUs. It's more about voltage. That's why I tend to favor PBO on these chips over traditional overclocking. The CPU can dial itself all the way down to something like ~.7V when idling.


Yeah. The X chips don't need manual OC or fixed voltages.

Makes me wonder if Performance Lvl 3/4 would cause degradation

Just with lvl 2 i get between 1.34v and 1.4v while playing games and it's not just the ocational spike to 1.4 and this is with an offset of -0.09v. It's a different story while under load with tests like cinebench, there my max voltage drops to 1.337v