Asus Strix X470-F Gaming owners thread

[AniChatt]

Hello guys, I am starting this thread for all Stix X470-F owners to discuss their overclock settings, issues etc. So that everyone get help quickly in a organised way. Installed my old 1600x in this mobo with 4011 bios and flareX 3200 with default docp and it works just fine without any issues so far. One thing to mention The board pushes 1.15v soc default docp profile. Is it normal seems a bit high for me as I have upgraded from B350-F gaming.
However a small issue I believe, the asus lighting control is not behaving normal. I mean just after login to windows it is taking a bit time to start (5min) before that if I try to on Lighting Control by clicking it, program crash window appears after few seconds. But when it starts on it's own then I can open asus lighting control. Anyone experiencing similar issue???
Also tried to use older version.

[Orb79]

so have this weird issue, 3266 with 4 dimms runs perfect, always

3333 mhz all the same manual timings (excepts trfc values adjusted for its still 260 ns), fails when the computer is cool

e.g first few ram test coverage test are like: 15%, 50%, 90% and then it passes 3000% (2 hours) procent without an error.
(if computer is warm, first test will pass 3000%)

any one else has this, or knows a fix?
or maybe bios has some weirdness

[Orb79]

cgmjr wrote:

Next question: What is the real advantage of overclocking these rigs at all? Left on all-auto I've seen some cores running a 4.4ghz for short periods of time. What's wrong with leaving it alone?
-cgmjr.

Depends, If you just use PBO overdrive with scalar 10, you overclock will range something like this
4250-4350 (if only using 2 cores)
4150-4200 (using multiple cores)
4050 when really stresing all cores hard.
(also depends on your temps)

so If you mostly doing games, there is not that much to be gained
If you really want very good multi core performance, you could lock it at 4.2 ghz and you get some nice gains
(probably want to use p-state, and some balanced power plan, in that case)

You can go higher but you will hit a recursive frequency wall (heat, need more voltage for stability, heat)

[ahmad_aljallad]

cgmjr wrote:
My IBT results are in. Mostly positive.

I followed @AniChatt's instructions, and did a few extra runs. Reset all bios options to auto and then:

Run #1: Failed after 7 runs of IBT. Only HWInfo running, but "turn off monitor" was set to 15 min. I disabled that, and did not start HWInfo, yielding:
Run #2: Passed 30 runs. Applied D.O.C.P. and tried again, no HWInfo, giving:
Run #3: Passed 30 runs. I started HWInfo and tested again, resulting in:
Run #4: Failed after 12 runs. Screen was on, I could move the mouse, but IBT, HWInfo and then all windows went unresponsive. I rebooted, started NZXT CAM:
Run #5: Passed 15 of 15 runs.

I surmise that my issue is monitoring software sensor collisions. My previous, unpredictable lockups were due to MSI Gaming App running in the background while HWInfo, Ryzen Master, and CAM were trying to access the sensors at various times.

Next step: run no monitoring software and play some ARK and WoW. See how it does. Then fire up one monitor and see how THAT does.

Next question: What is the real advantage of overclocking these rigs at all? Left on all-auto I've seen some cores running a 4.4ghz for short periods of time. What's wrong with leaving it alone?

-cgmjr.

the same here first start prime 95 crashed when stop the test HWinfo was on , then tried again and HWinfo was on and crashed immediately , then started the test multiple time without HWinfo and it was working fine without any crashes i think prime 95 was using the sensors also i don't know what is the bios issue or software or processor

[Orb79]

ahmad_aljallad wrote:
the same here first start prime 95 crashed when stop the test HWinfo was on , then tried again and HWinfo was on and crashed immediately , then started the test multiple time without HWinfo and it was working fine without any crashes i think prime 95 was using the sensors also i don't know what is the bios issue or software or processor

Just curious, do you ahve the "asus EC" module loaded in, I turn this off because HWinfo said could lead to possile instability
You can see its red / disabled in this screenshot

[AniChatt]

Orb79 wrote:
Just curious, do you ahve the "asus EC" module loaded in, I turn this off because HWinfo said could lead to possile instability
You can see its red / disabled in this screenshot

For me HW info not even asked for this. It used to ask in my previous mobo.

[nirurin]

So I bought this board, thinking it was a mid to high tier board (as it had the RogStrix branding).

I had also intended to try out the Asus released recommended BCLK settings, to try and get my BCLK to 103.4 (this is the figure they suggest) in order to get somewhere near 4.45ghz clock boosts using XFR/PB2.

However, from what I can tell, this board simply can't do it.

You can change the BCLK (it seems to be labelled at "APU frequency" for some reason), but even if you only change it to 101, the system will then max out your clocks to 3.7ghz. (Also you can only set whole numbers, so it's 103 or 104, not 103.4)

I believe this is because you are also meant to change "Core Performance Boost" to "Enabled". However on this board, you can only choose between Disabled and Auto.

SO yeh, unless I'm missing something, this board is completely incapable of the recommended overclocking method for Ryzen Zen+. Basically meaning you could get the much cheaper prime instead.

[AniChatt]

nirurin wrote:
So I bought this board, thinking it was a mid to high tier board (as it had the RogStrix branding).

I had also intended to try out the Asus released recommended BCLK settings, to try and get my BCLK to 103.4 (this is the figure they suggest) in order to get somewhere near 4.45ghz clock boosts using XFR/PB2.
However, from what I can tell, this board simply can't do it.
You can change the BCLK (it seems to be labelled at "APU frequency" for some reason), but even if you only change it to 101, the system will then max out your clocks to 3.7ghz. (Also you can only set whole numbers, so it's 103 or 104, not 103.4)
I believe this is because you are also meant to change "Core Performance Boost" to "Enabled". However on this board, you can only choose between Disabled and Auto.
SO yeh, unless I'm missing something, this board is completely incapable of the recommended overclocking method for Ryzen Zen+. Basically meaning you could get the much cheaper prime instead.

Have you tried the more conventional oc first before moding base clock? What is the result? Is there any issue during that OC? I have not done BCLK oc but last I have done on the i5-3450 non-overclock-able CPU to achieve 3.91Ghz all core oc on asus P8Z77-v mobo. But that time it was really difficult to stabilize the ram oc since when you push bclk all of your other frequencies get disturbed like ram, pcie bus speed etc. So do a bit more research becs it is not that easy.
CBP auto means enabled. And for the Prime X470, this board has much better VRM design so yeh it worth it but this board is obviously is poor compred to Crosshair vrms.

[ahmad_aljallad]

earlier i posted here about the crash issue which is happening with this motherboard when we use multiple monitoring software when screen goes black (no signal) and you will need to restart the PC from PSU only power button and reset button not working , i just contacted Asus and they recommend me to install the latest drivers , i am not sure if they are aware of the issue , is there anybody contacted issue and they informed him that they are working to resolve this issue

[AniChatt]

ahmad_aljallad wrote:
earlier i posted here about the crash issue which is happening with this motherboard when we use multiple monitoring software when screen goes black (no signal) and you will need to restart the PC from PSU only power button and reset button not working , i just contacted Asus and they recommend me to install the latest drivers , i am not sure if they are aware of the issue , is there anybody contacted issue and they informed him that they are working to resolve this issue

Provided some details for a different motherboard to asus but not received any convincing reply.

[RealAntithesis]

AniChatt wrote:
Provided some details for a different motherboard to asus but not received any convincing reply.

They probably won't admit there's an issue until they have a fix for it. Otherwise people might not want to buy the affected motherboards anymore (possibly the entire x470 line up). It would be nice to know whether they are actively working on a fix though, as rampant rumour on the Internet of people having unknown and unresolved issues with Asus x470 motherboards could possibly be worse for Asus than stating they know about it and are working on a fix.