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Asus Strix X470-F Gaming owners thread

AniChatt
Level 9
Hello guys, I am starting this thread for all Stix X470-F owners to discuss their overclock settings, issues etc. So that everyone get help quickly in a organised way. Installed my old 1600x in this mobo with 4011 bios and flareX 3200 with default docp and it works just fine without any issues so far. One thing to mention The board pushes 1.15v soc default docp profile. Is it normal seems a bit high for me as I have upgraded from B350-F gaming.
However a small issue I believe, the asus lighting control is not behaving normal. I mean just after login to windows it is taking a bit time to start (5min) before that if I try to on Lighting Control by clicking it, program crash window appears after few seconds. But when it starts on it's own then I can open asus lighting control. Anyone experiencing similar issue???
Also tried to use older version.
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eXeToR wrote:
If you run it like that it's running on stock values, if you've only changed that the changes don't do anything as far as I know (I might be wrong).


I can tell you right now - setting the "Offset" negative value to "Auto" absolutely does work and drops the CPU and SOC voltages from stock settings. It's not as much as if you were manually doing it, but it absolutely does drop the voltages. It does something. This has been the case on every ASUS board I've ever used that has included that feature, all the way back to my old Z77-V LK board with my i5-3570K.

jowdyboy wrote:
Hey! Well, I'm at the point now in my life now where I simply don't care (or have time to care) about fine-tuning my components like I used to when I was younger.

When I had the 2700X in my system (it's now in the GF's system in a similar ASUS X470-I ITX Motherboard), I had the SOC and CPU voltages set to the "-" offset, with the "auto" value. I'm using the same offset settings in my current 5900X system. At the moment, "HWMONITOR" and "HWINFO" are reporting that my SOC's max voltage is "1.000", but averages "0.995". My CPU voltage hits a max of "1.487", and averages "1.420". Averages were calculated after using the system for 5 minutes with moderate usage (YouTube, Excel, etc.).

I couldn't tell you what the average voltages are for the 2700X build using the "auto" negative offset values, because I'm not sitting in front of it currently.


I still have the 2700X in mine, do you know if I should upgrade the BIOS to the latest version? I want to be able to use Win 11. Also might be upgrading to the 5950X in the near future (can it run on air cooling-- if not, what's the best processor for this motherboard that can?). Also I have 32 GB of memory (16 GB x 2 Crucial).....would the latest BIOS allow me to use more memory.... like, 128 GB?

Alex0915 wrote:
I still have the 2700X in mine, do you know if I should upgrade the BIOS to the latest version? I want to be able to use Win 11. Also might be upgrading to the 5950X in the near future (can it run on air cooling-- if not, what's the best processor for this motherboard that can?). Also I have 32 GB of memory (16 GB x 2 Crucial).....would the latest BIOS allow me to use more memory.... like, 128 GB?


Alex0915 wrote:
Also will the asus rtx 3060 v2 TUF gaming card work with this motherboard? It is pcie 4.0 and has 12 GB of VRAM.


BUMP! By chance does anyone have any advice on these 2 posts? (seems like the video card is a go? But IDK?)

I'm also considering upgrading to a 5900x since they are so cheap right now or just doing the 5950x but still have the 2700x it came with. Any issues with updating the BIOS with my current configuration? Does the RAM installed really matter for the processor? OR is it just to optimize/get the best performance out of it? I've got 32GB, but would like to go 64. (and if 128 is possibility that's worth considering at least) But it would be great to know if I can do this in stages. Update my BIOS now, then buy new RAM, then a new Video card, and then upgrade the processor so I could space out the purchases. (instead of having to buy it all at once, and it might be video card first because of a sale, etc.)

Xmas is EXPENSIVE! So I want to take advantage of some of the deals going on, but would also like to keep spending in check...

sstiingya wrote:
BUMP! By chance does anyone have any advice on these 2 posts? (seems like the video card is a go? But IDK?)

I'm also considering upgrading to a 5900x since they are so cheap right now or just doing the 5950x but still have the 2700x it came with. Any issues with updating the BIOS with my current configuration? Does the RAM installed really matter for the processor? OR is it just to optimize/get the best performance out of it? I've got 32GB, but would like to go 64. (and if 128 is possibility that's worth considering at least) But it would be great to know if I can do this in stages. Update my BIOS now, then buy new RAM, then a new Video card, and then upgrade the processor so I could space out the purchases. (instead of having to buy it all at once, and it might be video card first because of a sale, etc.)

Xmas is EXPENSIVE! So I want to take advantage of some of the deals going on, but would also like to keep spending in check...


Thanks, I found that RAM is much less expensive now. I don't know the maximum memory for this motherboard but I saw that 2x32GB (64GB total) memory from Crucial is 199 and Corsair Vengeance memory 4x16GB (64GB total) is 190! I'm wondering if 4x32GB (128 GB) total can be used? Right now I have 2x16GB (32 GB) memory from Crucial, so going to 64 GB will double my RAM. And I have the 1060 6 GB card so going to the 3060 12 GB card will double my VRAM!

I think the 5900x can be air cooled-- not sure about the 5950X but there are some powerful air coolers out there so maybe!

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x470-f-gaming-model/spec/

But here it does say it supports 2 slots adding up to 64GB....so that has to be 2x32GB.....doesn't mention 2x64GB anywhere though.

Maybe the white papers mentioned in the previous post only refer to the 2xxx and 3xxx generation CPU (those papers are from 2019) and it's the later generations that can support 32 GB per slot (but only a maximum capacity of 64 GB not 128 GB across 4 slots?)-- still doesn't explain 8x16 GB (128 GB total) since there aren't 8 slots on this board lol.

eXeToR wrote:
You've had a 2700X before, do you by any chance remember the offset values you were using with the previous CPU? I haven't upgraded mine yet, I would like to have an approximate range to play with. Mine runs on stock values at the moment, if you've other recommendations regarding BIOS settings to turn on/off feel free to throw them at me.


Only had a 2600x, now running on a tomahawk max2, but it's usual to expect something in the -0.05 to -0.1V range with auto/low llc. If scalar is left at 1x, the max stable offset might not go so high, as you're not countering the added voltage by higher scalar. Small 0,0125V increments can make significant stability differences, as a slightly higher voltage can also result in less ~25-50Mhz at the same load where it was failing before.

On my particular 2600x sample, with raised PBO limits but scalar kept at 1x, I can only reduce to -0.05V for it to be stable in everything I throw without random blackscreens at lighter/sc loads. With higher scalar like 7x, -0,0675 was ok (but in practice voltages were higher). IIRC on my 470-F at 10X -0.075V seemed okayish, but I've never tested so extensively on single core loads.

All of the above was for the older 1.2.0.2 and 1.2.0.3c agesa I run. The newer 1.2.0.6/7 come with a newer Pinnacle Ridge SMU, and I have no idea if they share the 1.425V vid limit (seen for more recent cpus on those agesa) when EDC is set over max stock (140A for "105W" models), which can hurt single core boost.

AlleyViper wrote:
Only had a 2600x, now running on a tomahawk max2, but it's usual to expect something in the -0.05 to -0.1V range with auto/low llc. If scalar is left at 1x, the max stable offset might not go so high, as you're not countering the added voltage by higher scalar. Small 0,0125V increments can make significant stability differences, as a slightly higher voltage can also result in less ~25-50Mhz at the same load where it was failing before.

On my particular 2600x sample, with raised PBO limits but scalar kept at 1x, I can only reduce to -0.05V for it to be stable in everything I throw without random blackscreens at lighter/sc loads. With higher scalar like 7x, -0,0675 was ok (but in practice voltages where higher). IIRC on my 470-F at 10X -0.075V seemed okayish, but I've never tested so extensively on single core loads.

All of the above was for the older 1.2.0.2 and 1.2.0.3c agesa I run. The newer 1.2.0.6/7 come with a newer Pinnacle Ridge SMU, and I have no idea if they share the 1.425V vid limit (seen for more recent cpus on those agesa) when EDC is set over max stock (140A for "105W" models), which can hurt single core boost.


Thanks for this valuable information.

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The stable version is out, I think it's the same as the beta.

2022/05/12
15.11 MBytes
ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING BIOS 6042

  • Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.7
  • Fix AMD fTPM issue causes random stuttering


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AlleyViper
Level 9
Np, good luck on your findings!
Stable 6042 Zip file is still the same, checksums match to previous beta download.

AlleyViper
Level 9
Maybe you're confusing "auto" vs. stock. P.e., on the X470-F my 2600x (which has 1.1 stock SOC VID) would run with 1.15V SOC when left on Auto because memory was set to 3200 instead of stock 2933 as per CPU spec (so, Auto raised SOC voltage in response to the "overclock"). One usual trick to avoid this auto overvolt on Asus boards is to set a minimum offset, so closest to stock values remain used. In that case, you're probably just forcing stock VID - 0 offset when selecting Auto in there, instead of allowing full Auto to overvolt a bit.

That hasn't always worked (ex. my M4A89GTD PRO), hence more the common use of the smallest offset increment allowed (a meaningless change like +0.003125 or +0.00625V) to avoid the arbitrary "auto" behavior over stock. Given that SOC in particular is static, you can also find the stock voltage via smallest offset (or desired stable undervolt) and then input the respective VID directly instead of offset mode.

The above applies for SOC on this board, not sure about Vcore Auto behavior when not using manual overclock, as it shouldn't be overvolting by default and I can't test it ATM. OTH, PE Level left at "Auto" could change PPT/TDC/EDC/Scalar, "Disabled" is stock.

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Installed latest bios so far no problem, manually reapplyed old settings looks ok