Asus Strix X470-F Gaming owners thread

[AniChatt]

Hello guys, I am starting this thread for all Stix X470-F owners to discuss their overclock settings, issues etc. So that everyone get help quickly in a organised way. Installed my old 1600x in this mobo with 4011 bios and flareX 3200 with default docp and it works just fine without any issues so far. One thing to mention The board pushes 1.15v soc default docp profile. Is it normal seems a bit high for me as I have upgraded from B350-F gaming.
However a small issue I believe, the asus lighting control is not behaving normal. I mean just after login to windows it is taking a bit time to start (5min) before that if I try to on Lighting Control by clicking it, program crash window appears after few seconds. But when it starts on it's own then I can open asus lighting control. Anyone experiencing similar issue???
Also tried to use older version.

[ArkhX470f]

Can we please have an update?

x470f owner, willing to upgrade to a 5000 cpu

[cantaloupe]

ArkhX470f wrote:
Can we please have an update?

x470f owner, willing to upgrade to a 5000 cpu

Things don't look good. Originally AMD/Asus has no plan to get 5000 cpus working on X470 boards. Then AMD bowed to blowback. There will be a bios update but it will be a beta and its not coming until after Christmas. No doubt it will be perfunctory, CYA update to look good. It will work like garbage, and there will be no further update imo.

[Bobafunk95]

cantaloupe wrote:
Things don't look good. Originally AMD/Asus has no plan to get 5000 cpus working on X470 boards. Then AMD bowed to blowback. There will be a bios update but it will be a beta and its not coming until after Christmas. No doubt it will be perfunctory, CYA update to look good. It will work like garbage, and there will be no further update imo.

What a shame. They charge you Hundreds for these boards then forget about you as soon as next year's model of that same board comes out.

[timiman]

My personal opinion for the X470/Ryzen 5000 series support is that an untested beta BIOS given to users of X470 boards should not be an option for the end user.
There are already a lot of reported unsolved (serious and dangerous) issues from 2+ years ago that make the X470 platform of Asus products not easily stable, thus not a good base to start building a "Ryzen 5000" tier PC.
The purchase cost of a X470 tier motherboard should not make the end user a beta tester. It should give him a stable, secure base to start with.
Also, never before a old motherboard that "beta-ish" supported a new CPU was stable enough to use it without any issues.
To sum up, Ryzen 5000 series seems to manifest a new level of performance. It deserves a new motherboard that supports all its features out-of-the-box without any hick-ups and beta BIOS.
Don't know if Asus can delivery this, though...

[Alex0915]

timiman wrote:
My personal opinion for the X470/Ryzen 5000 series support is that an untested beta BIOS given to users of X470 boards should not be an option for the end user.
There are already a lot of reported unsolved (serious and dangerous) issues from 2+ years ago that make the X470 platform of Asus products not easily stable, thus not a good base to start building a "Ryzen 5000" tier PC.
The purchase cost of a X470 tier motherboard should not make the end user a beta tester. It should give him a stable, secure base to start with.
Also, never before a old motherboard that "beta-ish" supported a new CPU was stable enough to use it without any issues.
To sum up, Ryzen 5000 series seems to manifest a new level of performance. It deserves a new motherboard that supports all its features out-of-the-box without any hick-ups and beta BIOS.
Don't know if Asus can delivery this, though...

I'm curious about something, why was there never a Ryzen 4000 series?

edit: looks like there will be and it will support X470

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15807/amd-to-support-zen-3-and-ryzen-4000-cpus-on-b450-and-x470-mothe...

[timiman]

Alex0915 wrote:
I'm curious about something, why was there never a Ryzen 4000 series?

edit: looks like there will be and it will support X470

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15807/amd-to-support-zen-3-and-ryzen-4000-cpus-on-b450-and-x470-mothe...

No, this information existed before AMD officially announced the "5000" naming scheme 2 weeks ago.
Desktop 4000 scheme (Zen 3) was skipped to avoid conflict with already existed Mobile 4000 (Zen 2) naming scheme.

[Alex0915]

timiman wrote:
No, this information existed before AMD officially announced the "5000" naming scheme 2 weeks ago.
Desktop 4000 scheme (Zen 3) was skipped to avoid conflict with already existed Mobile 4000 (Zen 2) naming scheme.

Thanks, I also find it confusing how they name Zen architecture. Why couldn't it have been Zen 1 = 1xxx series, Zen 2 = 2xxx series, Zen 3 = 3xxx series, Zen 5 = 5xxx series, etc. (and make the mobile chipset Zen 4 = 4xxx series)?

[nekhrun]

timiman wrote:
My personal opinion for the X470/Ryzen 5000 series support is that an untested beta BIOS given to users of X470 boards should not be an option for the end user.
There are already a lot of reported unsolved (serious and dangerous) issues from 2+ years ago that make the X470 platform of Asus products not easily stable, thus not a good base to start building a "Ryzen 5000" tier PC.
The purchase cost of a X470 tier motherboard should not make the end user a beta tester. It should give him a stable, secure base to start with.
Also, never before a old motherboard that "beta-ish" supported a new CPU was stable enough to use it without any issues.
To sum up, Ryzen 5000 series seems to manifest a new level of performance. It deserves a new motherboard that supports all its features out-of-the-box without any hick-ups and beta BIOS.
Don't know if Asus can delivery this, though...

Very interesting, I didn't know it. What is your source? Could you please link it?
Thanks

[timiman]

nekhrun wrote:
Very interesting, I didn't know it. What is your source? Could you please link it?
Thanks

As I've said, this is my personal opinion, based on my experience with the Strix X470-F Gaming.
You can search this forum and find some of them.
I've stumble upon 2 major issues during the last 2 years with this mobo, having testing all the BIOS revisions that were published.
a. major fan issue, when randomly all fans connected to mobo, not following fan settings set on BIOS and either turning on full speed or stop turning at all !
b. after WoL wake-up CPU not throttling down and/or unable to complete a full power on/off cycle without power down system from case's button
c. mobo exposure different sensors in every published BIOS version, so missing some -like PCH Temp- every other BIOS version

Fan issue was not present only in BIOS 4804 -which I'm using now, but has issue b.
All issues have been reported to Asus support without any viral solution provided.
And I have to say that "RMA the mobo" is not a solution, when each BIOS version is randomly changing the mobo stability.

Closing, I have to say -again- that "Ryzen 5000" needs a stable, 100% "Ryzen 5000"-goodies supported mobo to start with.
I'm using Asus motherboards almost 20 years (I'm respecting my A7V), but I doubt that Asus can deliver that, judging the last 2 years.

[nekhrun]

timiman wrote:
As I've said, this is my personal opinion, based on my experience with the Strix X470-F Gaming.
You can search this forum and find some of them.
I've stumble upon 2 major issues during the last 2 years with this mobo, having testing all the BIOS revisions that were published.
a. major fan issue, when randomly all fans connected to mobo, not following fan settings set on BIOS and either turning on full speed or stop turning at all !
b. after WoL wake-up CPU not throttling down and/or unable to complete a full power on/off cycle without power down system from case's button
c. mobo exposure different sensors in every published BIOS version, so missing some -like PCH Temp- every other BIOS version

Fan issue was not present only in BIOS 4804 -which I'm using now, but has issue b.
All issues have been reported to Asus support without any viral solution provided.
And I have to say that "RMA the mobo" is not a solution, when each BIOS version is randomly changing the mobo stability.

Closing, I have to say -again- that "Ryzen 5000" needs a stable, 100% "Ryzen 5000"-goodies supported mobo to start with.
I'm using Asus motherboards almost 20 years (I'm respecting my A7V), but I doubt that Asus can deliver that, judging the last 2 years.

First af all, thank you for your reply, I understand much better now.
I own a X470-F too.

For (a) I have a similar issue, but in my case just the cha_fan1 stops working at all. it occurs only with cha_fan1 and only when I use the sleep function in windows 10 (randomly) or when I set the cha_fan1 fan curve manually from Bios, but if I use the default presets it didn't occur. I discovered this problem later and I admit that made me crazy.

For (b) and (c) I never hadn't any other issues, I always see all the temps of the sensors in bios (and in hwinfo). I don't use WoL, for now.

For the Zen 3 processors support for X470/B450, I can say that I never like "Beta" things. Instead relately at the X470-F, I think that It would be a good motherboard for VRMs and electrical part, or am I wrong?
Anyway, I agree with you when you say that the Ryzen 5000 cpus need stable and supported motherboards. Definitely.