Asus Strix X470-F Gaming owners thread

[AniChatt]

Hello guys, I am starting this thread for all Stix X470-F owners to discuss their overclock settings, issues etc. So that everyone get help quickly in a organised way. Installed my old 1600x in this mobo with 4011 bios and flareX 3200 with default docp and it works just fine without any issues so far. One thing to mention The board pushes 1.15v soc default docp profile. Is it normal seems a bit high for me as I have upgraded from B350-F gaming.
However a small issue I believe, the asus lighting control is not behaving normal. I mean just after login to windows it is taking a bit time to start (5min) before that if I try to on Lighting Control by clicking it, program crash window appears after few seconds. But when it starts on it's own then I can open asus lighting control. Anyone experiencing similar issue???
Also tried to use older version.

[norman_87]

gekido0 wrote:
Ok, no problem. I'll try and set the overclocking manually and see what happens.

As a matter of interest, which Windows power plan are you guys using?

Windows balanced power plan since ryzen power plan doesn't work anymore.

[Semicuda]

gekido0 wrote:
My issue is that even though I have a Kraken X62 installed the CPU is running at, what I consider, really high temperatures slowing down the performance of the CPU. Idle temps are between 40c-50c and under gaming or benchmarking load it is between 80-90c. I've built quite a few machines over the years so I have eliminated the usual culprits of bad heat paste distribution/bad cooler. I had the same issue with the stock cooler hence the reason I bought the Kraken X62 but seeing almost the exact same temperatures.

I've played around with the features in the BIOS trying to bring down the high temps. The reason I think the temps are so high is the base voltage for the CPU, which is auto-configured, is really high. 1.45 and then boosts up to 1.55v. When in Windows I've been using the Ryzen Balanced power plan and the voltage of the CPU never goes below 1.45v even when the CPU is idle. I switched to the Windows Balanced power plan which does bring the voltage down to 0.85 but the CPU temps still quite high at 39c at idle and still very high under load at 80c.

That is exactly the same issue I'm having. If you downgrade the bios to 0225 you will see more normal temperatures. I'm on 4011 now but with a fixed overclock to 4.1 and slightly undervolted. Seems to run fine now, and throttling back to 2.2ghz on idle also still works.
However, I still believe that there is a major issue in the bios that leads to those ridiculously hight temps when everything is on auto.

[gekido0]

Hi Guys.

I'm happy to report that after setting up my BIOS manually my CPU now idles at 35c and only goes up to 65c under load. Much better than what it was on auto. Will test with new BIOS when available.

[Semicuda]

gekido0 wrote:
Hi Guys.

I'm happy to report that after setting up my BIOS manually my CPU now idles at 35c and only goes up to 65c under load. Much better than what it was on auto. Will test with new BIOS when available.

Nice! Would you mind sharing your settings?

[gekido0]

Semicuda wrote:
Nice! Would you mind sharing your settings?

Sure! I'll check tonight after work and update here. It was mainly tuning back the OC that auto seems to set really aggressively.

[norman_87]

Flashed the latest Bios Version, didn't really notice any difference. Same overclocking settings as on 4011 are working just fine.



- G.Skill Flare X (2x8GB) 3200MHz overclocked to 3466MHz with 1.45v, auto soc v (which is 1.15) with the Stilts fast b-die timings for 3333MHz.

- Ryzen 5 2600X overclocked to 4.2GHz 1.381v LLC Level 3 max temp under 100% load 70.3C on H115i 280mm AIO Watercooler fixed 1200rpm on Radiator Fans.


I also gave performance enhancer lvl 3 another try on this BIOS with pbo enabled and scalar on auto. Single cores boosting to 4.25GHz with voltage peaks up to 1.55v. I just prefer the manual allcore overclocking for now since I do some heavy tasks on my PC.

I haven't tested if the blackscreen issue is still there when I run HWInfo and Corsair Link at the same time, I'm used to closing Link by now when I want to use HWInfo to monitor stuff.

I've had no issues overclocking my memory on Bios 4018 aswell as on Bios 4011 so the new one is kinda useless for me, anyway I always flash the latest version for the sake of it.

[dfg555]

norman_87 wrote:
Flashed the latest Bios Version, didn't really notice any difference. Same overclocking settings as on 4011 are working just fine.



- G.Skill Flare X (2x8GB) 3200MHz overclocked to 3466MHz with 1.45v, auto soc v (which is 1.15) with the Stilts fast b-die timings for 3333MHz.

- Ryzen 5 2600X overclocked to 4.2GHz 1.381v LLC Level 3 max temp under 100% load 70.3C on H115i 280mm AIO Watercooler fixed 1200rpm on Radiator Fans.


I also gave performance enhancer lvl 3 another try on this BIOS with pbo enabled and scalar on auto. Single cores boosting to 4.25GHz with voltage peaks up to 1.55v. I just prefer the manual allcore overclocking for now since I do some heavy tasks on my PC.

I haven't tested if the blackscreen issue is still there when I run HWInfo and Corsair Link at the same time, I'm used to closing Link by now when I want to use HWInfo to monitor stuff.

I've had no issues overclocking my memory on Bios 4018 aswell as on Bios 4011 so the new one is kinda useless for me, anyway I always flash the latest version for the sake of it.

I assume that's 1.381v under load with LLC 3?

[norman_87]

dfg555 wrote:
I assume that's 1.381v under load with LLC 3?

That's the voltage needed for my overclock to be stable, LLC LVL 3 vdroops voltage under full load to ~1.35v.

Fixed manual voltage since I manually overclocked. Also windows balanced power plan to have cores boosting down while in idle.

I don't really get your question but whatever.

[norman_87]

AniChatt wrote:

lastly the bottom line: Don't expect any performance gain from 2900+ Mhz up to 3200. It is simply intangible. So all of this suggestions is just for fun of overclocking.

This is just plain nonsence... ofc there is performance gain ryzen just scales super well with faster memory.. fps wise you might not gain that much (between 5-10 fps) but compare 2900+ to 3466 which this motherboard supports and do some benching and you'll notice the difference in your scores and workloads.

[AniChatt]

norman_87 wrote:
This is just plain nonsence... ofc there is performance gain ryzen just scales super well with faster memory.. fps wise you might not gain that much (between 5-10 fps) but compare 2900+ to 3466 which this motherboard supports and do some benching and you'll notice the difference in your scores and workloads.

Really????? Can't disagree any more without solid evidence. Just post a video that you have gained 5+ fps in a CPU intensive game from 2900 to 3200Mhz. Also don't post similar, like many reviews where they have shown performance gain paring a GTX1080ti and at 1080p or 720p low result. Who has 1080Ti, will not put the game at low. So,
1. First select some CPU intensive games like AC Origine, BF1, Watch Dogs 2, CB result
2. Put your ram at 2900Mhz CL14 ( i mean same timing)
3. Test it then repeat it again with 3200. Also do mention your specs for testing. let's see what is the result with Ryzen+ cpus.

Getting old testing my ram from 2400Mhz to 3200 also 3333Mhz (not stable for my older 1600x) and ended with frustration why I have wasted my money buying a overpriced RAM (flareX). May be in some extreme case I am doing something wrong. What I have seen is the game performance gain is less than 2fps for CPU intensive games like AC Origin. Again Cinebench result also showing worthless improvement (<20 point as per I remember). I game at 2560x1080 resolution since I own a 1080 and I will not even consider if there is any improvement on ram speed at lower res and lower setting. The only improvement I have seen is the AIDA RAM benchmark result. Beside that SIMPLY NOT WORTHY IMPROVEMENT. I REPEAT!!!

Beside there is a long thread named Asus Strix B350-F Gaming Issues where I have posted my memory scaling results and had confirmed with other users if they have similar performance gains or not and found conforming results. You are the first user I have seen has claimed upto 10fps gain WOW!!!
So lets dig deep into it Shall we? I will be happy to learn how I can gain up to 10 fps with ram OC!!!!