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Asus Strix X470-F Gaming owners thread

AniChatt
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Hello guys, I am starting this thread for all Stix X470-F owners to discuss their overclock settings, issues etc. So that everyone get help quickly in a organised way. Installed my old 1600x in this mobo with 4011 bios and flareX 3200 with default docp and it works just fine without any issues so far. One thing to mention The board pushes 1.15v soc default docp profile. Is it normal seems a bit high for me as I have upgraded from B350-F gaming.
However a small issue I believe, the asus lighting control is not behaving normal. I mean just after login to windows it is taking a bit time to start (5min) before that if I try to on Lighting Control by clicking it, program crash window appears after few seconds. But when it starts on it's own then I can open asus lighting control. Anyone experiencing similar issue???
Also tried to use older version.
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RealAntithesis wrote:
They probably won't admit there's an issue until they have a fix for it. Otherwise people might not want to buy the affected motherboards anymore (possibly the entire x470 line up). It would be nice to know whether they are actively working on a fix though, as rampant rumour on the Internet of people having unknown and unresolved issues with Asus x470 motherboards could possibly be worse for Asus than stating they know about it and are working on a fix.



this issue effected even crosshaire

AniChatt wrote:
Have you tried the more conventional oc first before moding base clock? What is the result? Is there any issue during that OC? I have not done BCLK oc but last I have done on the i5-3450 non-overclock-able CPU to achieve 3.91Ghz all core oc on asus P8Z77-v mobo. But that time it was really difficult to stabilize the ram oc since when you push bclk all of your other frequencies get disturbed like ram, pcie bus speed etc. So do a bit more research becs it is not that easy.
CBP auto means enabled. And for the Prime X470, this board has much better VRM design so yeh it worth it but this board is obviously is poor compred to Crosshair vrms.


Standard overclock will get to 4.275ghz before it gets unstable. Which isn't bad, but it also hits over 100c under stress tests. (not using stock cooler).

I have currently got the board running on the 'Performance Enhancer' level 4 Stilt OC though, with a 10x scalar on the PBO. IT runs at 4.2ghz all cores, and still boosts to 4.35ghz on single threads. It's not as good as others got from the bclk overclock, but it's not too bad, and it doesn't mess up ram or m2 ssds which is a big plus obviously aha.

Downside is that the voltages do spike to 1.5v on occasion, but under load they generally hold at around 1.44 or 1.45v which I believe is "within safety limits" for the chip?

Scan have given me the option to return the board and change for another one, but I'm now not sure, it would mean an entire dissassembly of the PC and reseating the chip etc etc, and at this point I'll only gain maybe 100mhz... I'm considering it in part because it might mean the board will also be better for Ryzen 2 in the future.

In lamens terms, what should I be doing, sticking to the old bios, with good temps and performance, or going back to 4011 and offsetting the voltage etc?

OK, few updates.

So I updated back to 4011. I cannot find where the menu is for fan delay cannot see it anywhere in bios, anyway I set it to pre configured silent mode. I set a minus offset to vcore of 0.100 set my ram to docp and 3266, log in to windows, with fan on silent config it is not going crazy on idle. However as soon as something like cinebench starts my temp jumps straight to mid 70s, and tops of at 79c, before on original bios was topping off at mid 60s70s.

However, I went back into bios, and to the Core Performance Boost, where I had to accept a disclaimer, I turned both settings to disabled, and there was 1 more setting called MODE0, which I also set to disabled.

Going back to cinebench after doing that my temps max out at mid 60s, just like the original bios. However my clocks are going down to 2.5ghz idle and boosting to 3.95ghz in cinebench and 4.35 at random times, so no idea what CPB does, I thought that's what it does, but I have it disabled and the cores are still doing the same things, but I am saving 10c in temperature just from turning CPB off, can someone explain that to me please.

I am making a little progress I guess, I can use 4011 bios now, with similar temps to the original bios, so it is improvement, thank you.

But I am still very much confused, so greatly appreciate all the help, thank you, Dean.

Glad I’m not the only one with the random blank screen and having to pull the plug to get it to restart. I even bought a new PSU as I thought mine was on the way out but still happens now and again.

This is the first ASUS board so not the best first starts their software seems buggy. I’m also having issues with their sound software sometimes sonic suite randomly doesn’t work I’m also getting distortion when playing music.

andrewtjb12 wrote:
Glad I’m not the only one with the random blank screen and having to pull the plug to get it to restart. I even bought a new PSU as I thought mine was on the way out but still happens now and again.

This is the first ASUS board so not the best first starts their software seems buggy. I’m also having issues with their sound software sometimes sonic suite randomly doesn’t work I’m also getting distortion when playing music.


did you open multiple monitoring software or similarly like mine, affected by nzxt cam software

fungamer wrote:
did you open multiple monitoring software or similarly like mine, affected by nzxt cam software


I think the first few times it happened I may have had hwinfo open not 100% sure I was keeping an eye on temps and voltages at one point, but I’ve also seen it freeze in the same way coming out of sleep when I didn’t have any monitoring software running other than ai suite.

andrewtjb12 wrote:
I think the first few times it happened I may have had hwinfo open not 100% sure I was keeping an eye on temps and voltages at one point, but I’ve also seen it freeze in the same way coming out of sleep when I didn’t have any monitoring software running other than ai suite.


Talking about freezing i Just had this happen randomly last night out of nowhere after finally getting a little stability. I had changed nothing apart from turning Aura off in bios, racking my brains thinking whats doing this, would do it at idle with nothing open, sometimes a restart sometime just a solid freeze up. So I opened task manager and saw a process for the aura lighting, I ended this process from running, now the pc has been running all night and all of today now with not one hiccup while the PC is being worked on too. Strange but true. I never had any freezes when Aura was on in bios, with aura lighting process running, but i do with aura off and the process still running.

AniChatt wrote:
By the way guys use this bios 4008 it is working flawless for me and my FlareX Kit is absolutely at CL14 at default DOCP in 2X8GB mode with 1600X. However not so stable at 4x8GB default. I have not tweaked timing yet and I will post it.

Regarding the RGB mess, it is fixed and the cause was the driver corruption.


About using 4 dimms, you cant overclock near as far compared to 2 dimms, gives to much stress on the internal memory controller of the cpu.
Maximum achievable is 3333 mhz with 4 dimms, compared to 3600 mhz with 2 dimms.

You could experiment with command rate / geardown:
1T geardown disabled, would be amazed if you could get it stable past 3000 mhz
1T geardown enabled (is like 1.5T)
2T geardown disabled, more stable, you might achieve 3200 mhz cl14 with your ram and you can use uneven CL timings, like CL15.

try tweak all manual timings, as the ryzen dram calculator advises, gives much lower latencies then leaving it on auto
to only ones that did not work for me is
- trdrdscl 2 or 3, needs to be 4
- twrwrscal 2 or 3, needs to be 4
- my ram cant do trcdwr 16, so using e.g cl15-17-17-17, get no performance increase if I use cl15-17-15-15

im using this atm with:
Crucial Ballistix Elite 4x8GB DDR4-3466 - BLE2K8G4D34AEEAK
XMP 3466 16-18-18-36
(samsung B-die, but not the best ones, but they where cheap)

74111

3266 mhz CL16-17-17-17 is also stable for met with Geardown enabled, 1T
3333 mhz stable-ish, can game with it fine but ussually gives me an error in prime stress testing after an hour or so

Orb79 wrote:
About using 4 dimms, you cant overclock near as far compared to 2 dimms, gives to much stress on the internal memory controller of the cpu.
Maximum achievable is 3333 mhz with 4 dimms, compared to 3600 mhz with 2 dimms.

You could experiment with command rate / geardown:
1T geardown disabled, would be amazed if you could get it stable past 3000 mhz
1T geardown enabled (is like 1.5T)
2T geardown disabled, more stable, you might achieve 3200 mhz cl14 with your ram and you can use uneven CL timings, like CL15.

try tweak all manual timings, as the ryzen dram calculator advises, gives much lower latencies then leaving it on auto
to only ones that did not work for me is
- trdrdscl 2 or 3, needs to be 4
- twrwrscal 2 or 3, needs to be 4
- my ram cant do trcdwr 16, so using e.g cl15-17-17-17, get no performance increase if I use cl15-17-15-15

im using this atm with:
Crucial Ballistix Elite 4x8GB DDR4-3466 - BLE2K8G4D34AEEAK
XMP 3466 16-18-18-36
(samsung B-die, but not the best ones, but they where cheap)

74111

3266 mhz CL16-17-17-17 is also stable for met with Geardown enabled, 1T
3333 mhz stable-ish, can game with it fine but ussually gives me an error in prime stress testing after an hour or so


Really good info thanks man. Just to add the default DOCP is setting main latency values as per SPD of the FlareX kit. Now I know that the 4x4 config stresses out really the the IMC of the CPU so stability is also CPU dependent. I have not tweaked anything yet for RAM. Since I am using 1600x so I think PBO will not work for me. I have tested with 38.5x at 1.35v (-ve offset of 0.0250) works just fine but gonna increase to 39 and test soon. Using Ryzen balanced power plan and reduced idle cpu rate to 60% just for fun nothing else.
In this mobo the CPU temp by the CPU and CPU temp show by the Mobo is same unlike the older Strix B350F where the CPU temp shown by the mobo is always a bit lower than the actual shown by my CPU.
I will test with Ryzen DRAM calculator again in this new mobo and post you. To check stability why you are using prime? HCI memtest is a much better program for this and it detects error really fast. Try the dang wang version of the hcj memtest from g.skill forum. They also use it for their stability testing and run it for at least 350%+. It also does not generate lot of heat for the CPU.