Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Bios update?

[thomson1969]

Hi,

Does anybody knows when there will be a new bios for this motherboard Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming.
The latest one is dated 2019-07-05, an there is nothing about which AGESA its using.

[primeshooter]

Sinistercr0c wrote:
Hi primeshooter - I understand you believe you were able to control the PCH fan in earlier BIOS's, and I'm not trying to diss you here, but I genuinely think you're mixing up two different headers on the motherboard.

The M.2 fan header is (and has always been) on the bottom of the motherboard on the right of the W_Pump+ and Cha_Fan2 headers. This is the header referenced both in QFan in BIOS and AI Suite in Windows 10 and it is addressable, i.e controlable by the user.

The PCH fan header is in the middle of the motherboard (underneath the uppermost PCI-E slot) and has the chipset fan connected to it (see picture). This fan is NOT addressable via QFan in BIOS nor AI Suite in Windows 10. You CANNOT control this fan in any way as far as I understand. There are NO BIOS options to control this fan, so how you believe you were controlling it is beyond me. I know you think it was referenced as the M.2 fan in earlier BIOS's and if that is correct, then what was the actual M.2 fan on the bottom of the motherboard called?

I know, I know I sound crazy, but the previous bios I used let me slow this down. I know it because I could frickin hear it lol. I'm aware I don't have anything connected on the M.2 header, but just telling you how it worked. It was bios 2502 or something IIRC. That little daft PCH fan slowed right down when I modded that M.2 curve...

[schm0]

Did you try to increase the CPU Load Line setting?
I have to use 2/3 to make my system stable again.

If this doesn't work you can also try to use CPU Voltage Offset feature.

[schm0]

schm0 wrote:
Did you try to increase the CPU Load Line setting?
I have to use 2/3 to make my system stable again.

If this doesn't work you can also try to use CPU Voltage Offset feature.

But its strange, that the system is stable again with an older BIOS version.
Maybe there was some change to the FMAX Enhancer voltage table adjustment, idk.

[FreakyPriest]

schm0 wrote:
Did you try to increase the CPU Load Line setting?
I have to use 2/3 to make my system stable again.

If this doesn't work you can also try to use CPU Voltage Offset feature.

Thank you for this idea. CPU LLC alone did not help. But reminded me of the days when I was optimizing RAM timings with the D-RAM Calculator for Ryzen. This tool contains a page with tweaks to stabilize RAM. I entered those recommended values into my BIOS and thes system did not crash for quite a few hours, yesterday. I will have to let my system idle for at least a day to know if it's really stable but it looks promising.

ASUS Support claims my board has a hardware defect but this is clearly related to something the new BIOS or AGESA changed. I should not have to use OC functionality to get my 3600 RAM stable at D.O.C.P. timings. And I don't have to with the old BIOS.

[MiniRawr]

FreakyPriest wrote:
Thank you for this idea. CPU LLC alone did not help. But reminded me of the days when I was optimizing RAM timings with the D-RAM Calculator for Ryzen. This tool contains a page with tweaks to stabilize RAM. I entered those recommended values into my BIOS and thes system did not crash for quite a few hours, yesterday. I will have to let my system idle for at least a day to know if it's really stable but it looks promising.

ASUS Support claims my board has a hardware defect but this is clearly related to something the new BIOS or AGESA changed. I should not have to use OC functionality to get my 3600 RAM stable at D.O.C.P. timings. And I don't have to with the old BIOS.

I've set my memory timmings manually to 3600 (my memory is 2x16 hyperx 3200) and one thing I had to do to have a stable system was to increase the memory voltage to 1.36v. I already tried everything, but if I leave in 1.35v it will eventually crash.
I'm still in BIOS 3001 but it was the same thing when I was using 2xxx BIOSes.

[FreakyPriest]

MiniRawr wrote:
I've set my memory timmings manually to 3600 (my memory is 2x16 hyperx 3200) and one thing I had to do to have a stable system was to increase the memory voltage to 1.36v. I already tried everything, but if I leave in 1.35v it will eventually crash.
I'm still in BIOS 3001 but it was the same thing when I was using 2xxx BIOSes.

I played around a bit more. I haven't completely figured it out, yet. It's not LLC or the other settings in that sub menu. I currently only have set
SOC Voltage = 1.05
VDDG CCD Voltage = 1.000
VDDG IOD Voltage = 1.000
cLDO VDDP Voltage = 0.950

The system is stable. But it really bothers me that with BIOS 3001 I just had to enable D.O.C.P. and could leave everything else on auto.

[Erwin05]

New Beta Bios 3603 on the Asus server.

AGESA 1.2.0.1 Patch A

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_STRIX_X570-E_GAMING/ROG-STRIX-X570-E-GAMING-ASUS...

[LogiForce]

Erwin05 wrote:
New Beta Bios 3603 on the Asus server.

AGESA 1.2.0.1 Patch A

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_STRIX_X570-E_GAMING/ROG-STRIX-X570-E-GAMING-ASUS...

I don't know what AGESA 1.2.0.1 Patch A changes?

I know that with Bios 3602 and earlier AGESA 1.2.X.X versions I get "no signal" on my monitor and even just now my PC lost power entirely for a split second.

Logbook again denotes...

Event ID 14 for "NVLDDMKM" with extended info
\Device\Video3
0d20(31f0) 00000000 00000000

This is in combination with the latest BIOS 3602 and Nvidia 461.92 drivers. Chipset drivers are via Windows update.


The fact that the system shuts down for a split second means there is a power distribution issue going on. Which either hints to AGESA 1.2.X.X BIOS versions not playing ball with Nvidia cards, or maybe just having power distribution bugs inside of it all together.
Either that or a faulty PSU but a good PSU hardly ever goes faulty, and I double checked the power requirements and rails on my PSU and it should have more than enough grunt to keep this going in idle conditions... yes, it never happens under load but only under idle conditions.

[Erwin05]

LogiForce wrote:
I don't know what AGESA 1.2.0.1 Patch A changes?

I know that with Bios 3602 and earlier AGESA 1.2.X.X versions I get "no signal" on my monitor and even just now my PC lost power entirely for a split second.

Logbook again denotes...

Event ID 14 for "NVLDDMKM" with extended info
\Device\Video3
0d20(31f0) 00000000 00000000

This is in combination with the latest BIOS 3602 and Nvidia 461.92 drivers. Chipset drivers are via Windows update.


The fact that the system shuts down for a split second means there is a power distribution issue going on. Which either hints to AGESA 1.2.X.X BIOS versions not playing ball with Nvidia cards, or maybe just having power distribution bugs inside of it all together.
Either that or a faulty PSU but a good PSU hardly ever goes faulty, and I double checked the power requirements and rails on my PSU and it should have more than enough grunt to keep this going in idle conditions... yes, it never happens under load but only under idle conditions.

Beta version 3603 is now on the downloadsite.

ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING BIOS 3603
"- Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.1 Patch A
- Fix USB connectivity issue

i would replace the PSU.

I would make a different post for your problem.

Why not install the latest chipset drivers from amd?
https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

[LogiForce]

Erwin05 wrote:
Beta version 3603 is now on the downloadsite.

ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING BIOS 3603
"- Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.1 Patch A
- Fix USB connectivity issue

i would replace the PSU.

I would make a different post for your problem.

Why not install the latest chipset drivers from amd?
https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

Because I already tried that and I made a post for my problem earlier, so I am just responding at this point in relation to my earlier post. Besides, I posted here because I thought it might be BIOS related and this is the thread for my motherboard and BIOS updates. So what better place to ask than here?

Also the reasons why I am on Windows Update chipset drivers is to rule out an issue with the latest chipset drivers in relation to the Nvidia card or BIOS. Which you could've read if you backlogged a bit.

Now I am back on BIOS 2802 with defaults loaded up. So let's see how long this lasts.
Replacing the PSU would set me back 400 euro. So I am not too keen on it. Replacing the GPU is an impossibility but it's an EVGA so maybe I'll RMA it.

Personally I just like to dig down into issues first before throwing money at it or be without a computer for a length of time.



Update:

After much testing and replacing the GPU with my old MSI GTX970 Gaming it seems to be an issue with the Evga RTX2080 XC Ultra.

Time for RMA I think.

Update 2:

Okay, I just stuck the card back in and left it auto-playing youtube videos on full screen whilst watching 2 episodes downstairs of "Drive to Survive" and... NOTHING.

Badly seated card? Dirt on the PCIe contacts?

PSU seems fine at least. Maybe I could do with an upgrade because of lack of CPU connectors but... no worries otherwise.