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Asus Crosshair VIII 3101 Beta Bios out !

Riplex
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Sprayingmango
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Anyone else worried that ASUS pulled the Beta bios from the Dark Hero support downloads page???

Sprayingmango wrote:
Anyone else worried that ASUS pulled the Beta bios from the Dark Hero support downloads page???


Hoping this just means a new non-beta version is ready to roll out. I reverted to 3003 anyways to be safe.
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Belatar
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hi,

i got my viii hero (non-wifi) with bios version 2702 already installed. i had all sorts of stability issues (bsod, random application crashes) that i could track to the docp mode of my G.Skill Trident Z RGB DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-4000, CL16-19-19-39 (F4-4000C16D-32GTZR) ram.
the issues happened about every 5 minutes with docp enabled (including triple restart loops after enabling docp in the bios) and went away when disabling docp and running the sticks at 2133mhz (default).
i did not change any other bios settings than docp, everything else is on default. i run a the latest windows 10 version with a 3080 gaming x trio and a corsair force mp600, all drivers and firmwares up to date.
looking forward to a bios version that enables my rig to run at full performance in a stable way.

kind regards,
bela

Belatar wrote:
hi,

i got my viii hero (non-wifi) with bios version 2702 already installed. i had all sorts of stability issues (bsod, random application crashes) that i could track to the docp mode of my G.Skill Trident Z RGB DIMM Kit 32GB, DDR4-4000, CL16-19-19-39 (F4-4000C16D-32GTZR) ram.
the issues happened about every 5 minutes with docp enabled (including triple restart loops after enabling docp in the bios) and went away when disabling docp and running the sticks at 2133mhz (default).
i did not change any other bios settings than docp, everything else is on default. i run a the latest windows 10 version with a 3080 gaming x trio and a corsair force mp600, all drivers and firmwares up to date.
looking forward to a bios version that enables my rig to run at full performance in a stable way.

kind regards,
bela


The chip only supports 3200MHz memory, anything above is OC and can't be guaranteed. Also DOCP support is sketchy. The best way to run fast memory is to do the settings for timings/subtimings yourself in the bios, you probably won't reach 4000MHz as only platinum sample CPU:s can do that without downclocking IF to half, but you can reach 3733MHz-3800Mz. Or you should reach that with such fine memory. Don't expect push one button OC, you need to do some research for yourself. The supported 3200MHz is probably very easy achievable, just turn off DOCP, set FCLK to 1600MHz, memory 3200MHz, memclk=uclk, VDIMM to 1.35V and the you can probably leave all the DRAM settings to Auto and let memory training do it's job during boot.
If you wants to clock higher Ryzen Dram Calculator by 1usmus is a great tool to find good settings, you need to use Taiphoon Burner first to get your exact ram specs and then feed them into RDC as a html/xml-file.
If you have a Zen 2 you can also use Clock Timer for Ryzen also by 1usmus to get most of the job automated, Zen 3 support will come soon

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/clocktuner-for-ryzen-(ctr-by-1usmus).html

I personally don't use these tools, I just play with the bios 🙂
R9 7950X - ASUS X670E Crosshair Extreme (bios 0803) - 32GB HyperX Fury Beast @6200c32 - Corsair H150i Pro - ASUS RTX3080 TUF OC V2 - Phanteks P400A - Corsair RM850 - WD SN850

xeizo wrote:
The chip only supports 3200MHz memory, anything above is OC and can't be guaranteed. Also DOCP support is sketchy. The best way to run fast memory is to do the settings for timings/subtimings yourself in the bios, you probably won't reach 4000MHz as only platinum sample CPU:s can do that without downclocking IF to half, but you can reach 3733MHz-3800Mz. Or you should reach that with such fine memory. Don't expect push one button OC, you need to do some research for yourself. The supported 3200MHz is probably very easy achievable, just turn off DOCP, set FCLK to 1600MHz, memory 3200MHz, memclk=uclk, VDIMM to 1.35V and the you can probably leave all the DRAM settings to Auto and let memory training do it's job during boot.
If you wants to clock higher Ryzen Dram Calculator by 1usmus is a great tool to find good settings, you need to use Taiphoon Burner first to get your exact ram specs and then feed them into RDC as a html/xml-file.
If you have a Zen 2 you can also use Clock Timer for Ryzen also by 1usmus to get most of the job automated, Zen 3 support will come soon

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/clocktuner-for-ryzen-(ctr-by-1usmus).html

I personally don't use these tools, I just play with the bios 🙂


the cpu is a 5900X and amd itself states that 4000mhz is the "sweet spot" performance wise for the zen 3 cpus, thats why i bought it. the board is advertised with supporting up to 4800mhz and the ram of course should be able to support its own advertised speed. so i do not understand where using the manufacturer provided docp settings should be out of spec for cpu, board or ram.

Belatar wrote:
the cpu is a 5900X and amd itself states that 4000mhz is the "sweet spot" performance wise for the zen 3 cpus, thats why i bought it. the board is advertised with supporting up to 4800mhz and the ram of course should be able to support its own advertised speed. so i do not understand where using the manufacturer provided docp settings should be out of spec for cpu, board or ram.


You must have missed all the "OC" marks, OC is OC and not guaranteed, it's "up to" - in the best case scenario
R9 7950X - ASUS X670E Crosshair Extreme (bios 0803) - 32GB HyperX Fury Beast @6200c32 - Corsair H150i Pro - ASUS RTX3080 TUF OC V2 - Phanteks P400A - Corsair RM850 - WD SN850

xeizo wrote:
You must have missed all the "OC" marks, OC is OC and not guaranteed, it's "up to" - in the best case scenario


i didnt miss the oc marks but as they make up most of the advertised speeds its quite disingenous marketing wise. thanks for your detailed responses anyway but this experience is quite disillusioning. why drop the money on high quality components if youre just taking part in a lottery and being left out to dry by the manufacturers? gonna go for lower priced components next time bc why bother? ive got better things to do than to have a second job figuring out ram timings. thanks again.

Shamino
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Shamino wrote:
3101 is taken down because Some Matisse CPU 3300X that are with a certain CCX disabled can't power on with AGESA ComboV2 1190
and will be replaced a another bios that fixes this bug.


3102 fixes this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pyt5laca4fjticp/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VIII-HERO-ASUS-3102.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/psu2v97pmlnkr6d/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VIII-HERO-WIFI-ASUS-3102.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uglijybsecgni7f/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VIII-IMPACT-ASUS-3102.rar?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/56omutd454znbvj/ROG-CROSSHAIR-VIII-DARK-HERO-ASUS-3102.rar?dl=0


is 3102 still beta or final release?

S197Mach1 wrote:
is 3102 still beta or final release?


I downloaded BIOS 3102 for my Crosshair 8 Formula directly from the Asus US support website and it is still presented as a beta there.
The list of changes is the same as BIOS 3101. I can see in the .CAP file that various modules have been changed.
I flashed it and it works as expected on my 5900X, all good here.