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Asus Crosshair VIII 3101 Beta Bios out !

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Kelutrel wrote:
Did you change your CPU Load Line Calibration ? Try to set it on Auto again, just try and see if you get back your MHz.


would this have changed defaults between bios versions? I never messed with that in the past.

Reliantg wrote:
would this have changed defaults between bios versions? I never messed with that in the past.


I noticed that on my C8F, on both the old 3003 bios and the new 3101 bios, when the CPU Load Line calibration is NOT set to Auto I get a hundred less points in CB20 benchmarks and the likes, and I think that is because the CPU boosts to a little bit less MHz (didnt check though).
So I thought that it may have been that you set the CPU LLC to something different than Auto when tuning the 3101 bios, and even when migrating back to 3003 the different CPU LLC stayed set in the profile and so you witnessed the performance decrease.

You can just try to set your CPU LLC back to Auto, if it is currently not set to Auto, and see if those few MHz come back. If you never touched that CPU Load Line Calibration setting, just ignore this.

Interesting - it wouldn't go up to 3800 for my RAM on my Formula board and boot so it is back to 2402 for that board.:(

However, on my Hero it is running fine at 4000 so not quite there yet - we'll see what the next BIOS does.

This bios 3101 has been removed from Asus ...

karmal wrote:
This bios 3101 has been removed from Asus ...


I noticed this too. Hoping that means a non-beta version is going to be posted soon...

Meanwhile, with bios 2206 I no longer had reboots with 128gb of ram at 3600mhz

karmal wrote:
Meanwhile, with bios 2206 I no longer had reboots with 128gb of ram at 3600mhz


It's kinda logical, if it's the much improved boost in later AGESA which are the reason for the sudden reboots: moving to a older AGESA without the extreme boost would remove the problem. But also the nice boost.
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xeizo wrote:
It's kinda logical, if it's the much improved boost in later AGESA which are the reason for the sudden reboots: moving to a older AGESA without the extreme boost would remove the problem. But also the nice boost.


Hi Xeizo,
what kind of boost are you talking about?
I didn't see any differences from 2206 and later bios versions.
The main advantage in later bioses is the PBOE function, wich enables my cpu to achieve the publicized 4600Mhz, and i get a serious performance boost enabling it!

But my system, with later bioses, does not reach fclk>1600Mhz anymore.

DrSlump76 wrote:
Hi Xeizo,
what kind of boost are you talking about?
I didn't see any differences from 2206 and later bios versions.
The main advantage in later bioses is the PBOE function, wich enables my cpu to achieve the publicized 4600Mhz, and i get a serious performance boost enabling it!

But my system, with later bioses, does not reach fclk>1600Mhz anymore.


I'm mainly talking about Ryzen 5000 and their happy boost to 5150MHz, with CO, which possibly is problematic. You run Ryzen 3000 so you are not affected much.
I run FCLK 1900 on C8H, C7H and B550-F using the latest AGESA 1.1.9.0, I wouldn't say FCLK is worse, but I had to change some settings.
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xeizo wrote:
I'm mainly talking about Ryzen 5000 and their happy boost to 5150MHz, with CO, which possibly is problematic. You run Ryzen 3000 so you are not affected much.
I run FCLK 1900 on C8H, C7H and B550-F using the latest AGESA 1.1.9.0, I wouldn't say FCLK is worse, but I had to change some settings.


Hi Xeizo,
please can you explain what "CO" is meaning for? Thanks 🙂
What kind of boost is the new agesa enabling for ryzen 3 series? Are we talking about some timing tightening?

By the way, when i said that my system is no more able to past 1600Mhz i meant at default settings. With 2206 bios my syste can reach 1800Mhz without any manual adjustment , it's as easy as enabling DOCP .