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Asus Crosshair VIII 3101 Beta Bios out !

Riplex
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Dicehunter wrote:
Well there will be a few reasons then -

1. Your kit is faulty - Unlikely

2. Your motherboard is faulty - Unlikely7

3. Your CPU has a weak memory controller - This one isn't uncommon, 2 identical CPU's, Even on the Intel side can have varying stable memory frequencies.

4. The bioses that Asus keep releasing are stopping you from reaching a stable clock - Unlikely especially as you said you tried multiple different bioses.

From my own experience I wouldn't run anything over 3200MHz if I had more than 32GB, If your workloads NEED more than 32GB then it's highly unlikely you'd actually see a tangible difference beyond 3200MHz in workloads that require more than 32GB.

To put it into perspective for you, My brother works in the film industry doing various graphical work including rendering, Editing etc... and all the workstations have at the bare minimum 64GB of memory, None of them run over 2933MHz for stability reasons.

1 kit tested 24 hours with memtest no errors
2 motherboard always worked with 4 banks of 16GB same brand of memory
3 I don't know this but with bios 2206 it has been on for 24 hours now and I have not had shutdowns with 128gb of ram .. but still early to say
4 I have not tested bios lower than 2311 and I am testing them now with 2206 and it seems to be stable even the cpu temperature has dropped
I do 3D rendering and modeling and with 64gb I find myself tight otherwise I kept the 4 16GB banks which worked perfectly.
if I buy a memory at 3600mhz and they tell me that it is certified I have to make it work at that working frequency not at 3200mhz otherwise I would buy one at 3200mhz saving money.

karmal wrote:
1 kit tested 24 hours with memtest no errors
2 motherboard always worked with 4 banks of 16GB same brand of memory
3 I don't know this but with bios 2206 it has been on for 24 hours now and I have not had shutdowns with 128gb of ram .. but still early to say
4 I have not tested bios lower than 2311 and I am testing them now with 2206 and it seems to be stable even the cpu temperature has dropped
I do 3D rendering and modeling and with 64gb I find myself tight otherwise I kept the 4 16GB banks which worked perfectly.
if I buy a memory at 3600mhz and they tell me that it is certified I have to make it work at that working frequency not at 3200mhz otherwise I would buy one at 3200mhz saving money.


Hi,
you're having the same problems of mine, but i got a 32GB memory kit not in qvl list, so Asus official support are pissing my off becouse of that.
With 2206 bios (or older) you will not have any problem.
With bios 2311 or later, if you try to raise yout fclk over 1600Mhz you will have instability.
Try it 🙂

DrSlump76 wrote:
Hi,
you're having the same problems of mine, but i got a 32GB memory kit not in qvl list, so Asus official support are pissing my off becouse of that.
With 2206 bios (or older) you will not have any problem.
With bios 2311 or later, if you try to raise yout fclk over 1600Mhz you will have instability.
Try it 🙂

yes I have been trying 2206 for two days and zero reboots with 128 gb of ram at 3600mhz .. this is the proof that nothing is obvious as some say
Also benefits on temperatures

karmal wrote:
yes I have been trying 2206 for two days and zero reboots with 128 gb of ram at 3600mhz .. this is the proof that nothing is obvious as some say
Also benefits on temperatures


Ok Karmal, interesting.
So, if you wish to try new bios, please load bios ver. 3003 and try following settings:

1) Load system defaults by F5;
2) Load your ram's XMP/DOCP profile;
3) Adjoust the system voltages as follows:

CPU_OFFSET_VOLTAGE = -0.025V
CPU_SOC_VOLTAGE= 1,025V
DRAM_VOLTAGE= 1,35V
VDDG_CCD= 0,95V
VDDG_IOD= 0,95V
CLDO_VDDP= 0,85V
1,8V_PLL=1,81V

Please let me know if your system is stable with these settings.
I use Hwinfo64 to check whea errors (last parameter in monitoring window), add it in tray to have a rapid alert. This parameter should remain alwais at 0, if not you have an instability issue.

Leave all other settings to auto (you can try PBO enhancer if you wish, it gives a relevant performance boost on my system, without satbility issues).

DrSlump76 wrote:
Ok Karmal, interesting.
So, if you wish to try new bios, please load bios ver. 3003 and try following settings:

1) Load system defaults by F5;
2) Load your ram's XMP/DOCP profile;
3) Adjoust the system voltages as follows:

CPU_OFFSET_VOLTAGE = -0.025V
CPU_SOC_VOLTAGE= 1,025V
DRAM_VOLTAGE= 1,35V
VDDG_CCD= 0,95V
VDDG_IOD= 0,95V
CLDO_VDDP= 0,85V
1,8V_PLL=1,81V

Please let me know if your system is stable with these settings.
I use Hwinfo64 to check whea errors (last parameter in monitoring window), add it in tray to have a rapid alert. This parameter should remain alwais at 0, if not you have an instability issue.

Leave all other settings to auto (you can try PBO enhancer if you wish, it gives a relevant performance boost on my system, without satbility issues).

Three days with 2206 today I turned on the pc and the screen remained black I had to turn it off and then it restarted normally but I no longer had sudden shutdowns during work boh ... what parameter should I see in hwinfo can you underline it?the one at the bottom?I will try with the indicated parameters .. but I don't know how to modify cpu offset voltage can you explain?so okay?

karmal wrote:
Three days with 2206 today I turned on the pc and the screen remained black I had to turn it off and then it restarted normally but I no longer had sudden shutdowns during work boh ... what parameter should I see in hwinfo can you underline it?the one at the bottom?I will try with the indicated parameters .. but I don't know how to modify cpu offset voltage can you explain?so okay?



Hi,
your parameters are ok, try it and let my know!

DrSlump76 wrote:
Hi,
your parameters are ok, try it and let my know!


but now i'm using them with 2206 before switching to 3101 to see if i still have problems .. as i told you with 2206 i had a black screen turning on after three days .. in normal use no shutdowns.. in hw info I have only some parameters in red that fluctuate with your settings

karmal wrote:
but now i'm using them with 2206 before switching to 3101 to see if i still have problems .. as i told you with 2206 i had a black screen turning on after three days .. in normal use no shutdowns.. in hw info I have only some parameters in red that fluctuate with your settings


Seems working good, although you don't need custom voltage values on 2206 bios.

Here the Power Deviation Accurancy value explanation:

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/hwinfo-application-beta-introduces-power-reporting-deviation-senso...

DrSlump76 wrote:
Seems working good, although you don't need custom voltage values on 2206 bios.

Here the Power Deviation Accurancy value explanation:

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/hwinfo-application-beta-introduces-power-reporting-deviation-senso...


yes I don't need customization on this bios but since I had a problem in starting today mah ..

Dicehunter
Level 10
Well you don't HAVE to run it at 3600MHz as you would never notice the difference between 3200MHz and 3600MHz if it's purely for 3D modelling etc...

A lot of memory and anything over 32GB generally speaking do not go well together for stability, You should aim for stability rather than getting 0.1% better performance that 400Mhz will give you.